KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

ImageSocial talk, maar dan in het Nederlands. Dit is de opvolger van het Praethuis uit het BBS tijdperk. Tagline verplicht !

Forum rules
Image
Post Reply
User avatar
patrick@tediek.com
Scramble Die-Hard
Scramble Die-Hard
Posts: 749
Joined: 01 Aug 2006, 17:33
Location: Amsterdam

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by patrick@tediek.com »

Thanks for the info, as the BFK leaves for Mojave and the BFM and BFO are parked in spain, does anybody know the reason why the BFK is not parked in Spain? Or is the BFK not owned by KLM and returns to its owner? What is the cycle and hour count on the BFK?
User avatar
B767-300ER
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 8814
Joined: 25 Dec 2007, 08:35

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by B767-300ER »

All KLM 744 are owned.
BFK is sold for parts. BFM and BFO are used for parts by KLM itself and therefor still owned by KLM
All times are local times!

Regards, N.
User avatar
XYZ
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 4332
Joined: 28 Feb 2003, 17:54

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by XYZ »

nemaco
Scramble Die-Hard
Scramble Die-Hard
Posts: 701
Joined: 30 Jun 2008, 20:41

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by nemaco »

De levering van PH-BVU is uitgesteld van mei 2017 naar september 2017. PH-BVS blijft wel gewoon februari 2017.
nemaco wrote:Nee, er zijn zeer recentelijk 3 aanvullende 777-300's besteld bovenop de 3 bestaande bestellingen in mrt 15, apr 15 en feb 16. Onderstaand het complete afleveringssschema:

PH-BVN 44549 Mar 2015 GE90-115B 34C 40Y 334M
On order
09
Op. Lease

PH-BVO 35946 Apr 2015 GE90-115B 34C 40Y 334M
On order
10
Owned

PH-BVP 44555 Feb 2016 GE90-115B 34C 40Y 334M
On order
11
Op. Lease

PH-BVR 61603 Jun2016 GE90-115B 34C 40Y 334M
On order
12
Op. Lease

PH-BVS 61604 Feb 2017 GE90-115B 34C 40Y 334M
On order
13
Op. Lease

PH-BVU 61702 May 2017 GE90-115B 34C 40Y 334M
On order
14
Owned

mac wrote:Dus sneller uitfaseren jumbo en later incasseren 787? Heeft KLM capaciteit over? Met het verdwijnen van de MD11 bij de MAC, het uitfaseren van de jumbo en later vervangend materieel verwelkomen betekent op zowel vracht als pax gebied een enorme achteruitgang. Kan de KLM dat veroorloven? Ze zetten hun kisten toch al maximaal in en extra frequenties zijn dan helemaal not done.
User avatar
RudiMD11
Scramble Die-Hard
Scramble Die-Hard
Posts: 737
Joined: 25 Apr 2016, 22:53
Location: EHRD/RTM
Contact:

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by RudiMD11 »

poereng wrote:BFK is planned to have it's last landing in AMS on Sunday 4 September, currently planned as KL888 (ex-HKG) flight, but ofcourse this still can be changed.
BFK will then be prepared at SPL East for it's final flight to Mojave, scheduled for Monday 26 September.
Kind regards, Roel
PH-BFK is on its way to Shanghai atm. Will return tomorrow 1800 as KL896. I guess this will be the last commercial flight then?
RVG
User avatar
SPL
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 11364
Joined: 12 Oct 2003, 23:56
Type of spotter: None

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by SPL »

No new flights in the CISS for PHBFK.


Groeten Martijn
*just doing my thing*
User avatar
streep
Scramble Addict
Scramble Addict
Posts: 1812
Joined: 31 Jul 2003, 16:23
Type of spotter: F1.8 voor de scherpte diepte
Subscriber Scramble: Ferdinand Peters
Location: hangmatje

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by streep »

PH-BFK ended its working life yesterday after more than 25 years of service

total time : 129500 hours
cycles : 15417


Will be broken up in the USA, so add 2 cycles and maybe 12 hours to the total when it really dies.
User avatar
patrick@tediek.com
Scramble Die-Hard
Scramble Die-Hard
Posts: 749
Joined: 01 Aug 2006, 17:33
Location: Amsterdam

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by patrick@tediek.com »

Impressive numbers for the BFK. Which aircraft has the highest airframe time in the fleet?
User avatar
B767-300ER
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 8814
Joined: 25 Dec 2007, 08:35

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by B767-300ER »

patrick@tediek.com wrote:Impressive numbers for the BFK. Which aircraft has the highest airframe time in the fleet?
AFAIK that was the BFA
All times are local times!

Regards, N.
aws747
Scramble Newbie
Scramble Newbie
Posts: 46
Joined: 11 Mar 2004, 23:19

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by aws747 »

The 747 with the most hours is the PH-BFD wich has 135879 flight hours.

PH-BFA only has 125410 hours.
User avatar
streep
Scramble Addict
Scramble Addict
Posts: 1812
Joined: 31 Jul 2003, 16:23
Type of spotter: F1.8 voor de scherpte diepte
Subscriber Scramble: Ferdinand Peters
Location: hangmatje

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by streep »

BFA and BFB are full pax 747, which have lower daily usage than the 747 Combis in the KLM fleet.
BFD has more hours than BFC, because of a extremely long down time of BFC after an incident in Alaska in the early 90s.
User avatar
B767-300ER
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 8814
Joined: 25 Dec 2007, 08:35

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by B767-300ER »

streep wrote:BFA and BFB are full pax 747, which have lower daily usage than the 747 Combis in the KLM fleet.
BFD has more hours than BFC, because of a extremely long down time of BFC after an incident in Alaska in the early 90s.
Dat was dat ie gestraald werd door As uit een spuwende vulkaan?
All times are local times!

Regards, N.
User avatar
YS11
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 24251
Joined: 09 Mar 2010, 14:49

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by YS11 »

B767-300ER wrote:
streep wrote:BFA and BFB are full pax 747, which have lower daily usage than the 747 Combis in the KLM fleet.
BFD has more hours than BFC, because of a extremely long down time of BFC after an incident in Alaska in the early 90s.
Dat was dat ie gestraald werd door As uit een spuwende vulkaan?
PH-BFC, incident, 15-12-1989.

At FL250 the aircraft flew into a normal looking cloud, which turned out to be a volcanic ash cloud (the result of an eruption of Mount Redoubt). Power was added to climb out of the cloud. About 10-15 seconds later all 4 engines failed and the standby electrical system failed. The crew were able to restart the engines after numerous attempts. The no. 1 and 2 engines were relit while descending through FL130 and the remaining 2 engines were relit at FL110. The aircraft landed safely at Anchorage, substantially damaged by the in-flight blasting by volcanic ash. The windshields were damaged, as were internal aircraft systems, avionics and electronics.

PROBABLE CAUSE: "Inadvertent encounter with volcanic ash cloud, which resulted in damage from foreign material (foreign object) and subsequent compressor stalling of all engines. A factor related to the accident was: the lack of available information about the ash cloud to all personnel involved."

Source, Flight safety network.
Rgds,Martin.
wingview
Scramble Junior
Scramble Junior
Posts: 152
Joined: 01 Oct 2009, 17:30

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by wingview »

BFC was toen 6 maanden oud en heeft geloof ik iets van 9 maanden in de tent gestaan. Zo'n beetje alles kon weer uit elkaar gehaald en/of vervangen worden. Maar dit was het beste resultaat wat ze konden behalen, veilige landing op PANC terwijl hun mind set al bij ditchen was. Volgens mij was er ook nog een vlieger aan boord die als passagier reisde en heeft geholpen.
User avatar
patrick@tediek.com
Scramble Die-Hard
Scramble Die-Hard
Posts: 749
Joined: 01 Aug 2006, 17:33
Location: Amsterdam

Re: KLM praat/discussie/speculeer corner

Post by patrick@tediek.com »

Weet iemand wanneer de PH-BFK haar laatste vlucht maakt richting de woestijn?
Post Reply

Return to “'t Praethuys”