Dutch Hercules for two years to the Middle East

Bassie76 · Post by **Bassie76** » 19 Dec 2008, 20:59

According to the 'ED' one Dutch Hercules will be stationed for two years un the United Arabian Emirates. There it will, together with Canadian aircraft, support the mission in Afghanistan.
http://www.ed.nl/specials/airport/article4226460.ece

kiwi · Post by **kiwi** » 20 Dec 2008, 16:30

What Hercules? We only have two now that are already working full time and we are still waiting on our other two. If this is true it's a decision not well thought through, lending out aircraft we don't yet have.

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » 20 Dec 2008, 17:17

kiwi wrote:What Hercules? We only have two now that are already working full time and we are still waiting on our other two. If this is true it's a decision not well thought through, lending out aircraft we don't yet have.

It is one of the two we currently have (as stated in the article and confirmed by http://www.defensie.nl" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

Greetings,
Stefan

nilsko · Post by **nilsko** » 20 Dec 2008, 20:12

kiwi wrote:What Hercules? We only have two now that are already working full time and we are still waiting on our other two. If this is true it's a decision not well thought through, lending out aircraft we don't yet have.

As I read it, we don't lend any aircraft, we just stationing it closer to the area of operation. This way no unneccesary transit time is needed getting planes back and forth. The Hercs are needed in Afghanistan, not here.

Stafsels · Post by **Stafsels** » 22 Dec 2008, 11:48

Hi all,

Should this mean Volkel AB will have only an realy old fashion Base Attack on the forthcomming Open Days in 2009?

Greetings,

Henk

Maurice · Post by **Maurice** » 22 Dec 2008, 12:55

kiwi wrote:What Hercules? We only have two now that are already working full time and we are still waiting on our other two. If this is true it's a decision not well thought through, lending out aircraft we don't yet have.

Yes there are only two hercs available and the airforce set priority to send one of the aircraft to the Middel East. It is not 'lend' or offered to anyone else but only used for our own troop transport into and from Afghanistan. The KDC-10 brings troops to the Herc, the Herc is responsible for the last (or first...) part of the ride. Due to increased risk levels in Afghanistan the (unprotected) KDC-10 does not operate there anymore. So you bet this decision is well thought through

Stafsels · Post by **Stafsels** » 22 Dec 2008, 18:07

Sound logical, besides: both KDC-10A would soon be needing overhauling or not?

Greetings,

Henk

kiwi · Post by **kiwi** » 22 Dec 2008, 23:40

Maurice wrote:
kiwi wrote:What Hercules? We only have two now that are already working full time and we are still waiting on our other two. If this is true it's a decision not well thought through, lending out aircraft we don't yet have.
Yes there are only two hercs available and the airforce set priority to send one of the aircraft to the Middel East. It is not 'lend' or offered to anyone else but only used for our own troop transport into and from Afghanistan. The KDC-10 brings troops to the Herc, the Herc is responsible for the last (or first...) part of the ride. Due to increased risk levels in Afghanistan the (unprotected) KDC-10 does not operate there anymore. So you bet this decision is well thought through

Haven't thought about the last leg of the troop transit route. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I realize now the will also reduce the need for C-17s to fly the last leg. Indeed well thought through, didn't think about it enough, thanks.

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » 29 Dec 2008, 13:13

Hi,

The departure of the C-130 is scheduled for 3 January 2009. The detachment will be called '1(NLD) FSE Mirage'.

Greetings,
Stefan

Redskin · Post by **Redskin** » 29 Dec 2008, 13:34

Stafsels wrote:Sound logical, besides: both KDC-10A would soon be needing overhauling or not?

yes, but before the first one will get it's cockpit upgrade the 3rd DC-10 (or first) will be delivered to the airforce, so during the upgrade process there will always be 2 DC-10's available for cargo/person transport.

Rockville · Post by **Rockville** » 29 Dec 2008, 18:52

According to de "Telegraaf" the detachment will comprise of 55 pax. Isn't that overdone?

Stafsels · Post by **Stafsels** » 31 Dec 2008, 08:45

Is it been decided wether it will be G-273 or G-275?
Last one should be repaired by now.

Greetings,

Henk

pipichantal · Post by **pipichantal** » 31 Dec 2008, 09:04

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 31 Dec 2008, 13:36

This saterday the 3rd, one of 'our' C-103's will leave for some time to Afganistan. Is there a ETD known?

Thanks in advance,
Paul.

Jeroen K · Post by **Jeroen K** » 31 Dec 2008, 18:21

pipichantal wrote:G-273 will go first.

©Foggy EWAS. ( of course )

ETD: 09.00 lt

Source: EWAS

Jeroen

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