Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
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Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
Two places with (possible) aircraft
Buckeburg
Kaufbeuren
https://www.bundeswehr.de/de/aktuelles/ ... hr-5519914
Buckeburg
Kaufbeuren
https://www.bundeswehr.de/de/aktuelles/ ... hr-5519914
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023
Possibly also participation of German navy helicopters at Wilhelmshaven
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
Buckeburg will have the NH90 demo. No surprise, really...
https://www.europeanairshows.co.uk/sche ... -demo-team
https://www.europeanairshows.co.uk/sche ... -demo-team
November 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
https://www.shg-aktuell.de/2023/05/23/t ... ueckeburg/
the Bückeburg Programm is know and is more extensive than expected!
the Bückeburg Programm is know and is more extensive than expected!
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
Hi all,
After doing a few days in Germany for Air Defender 2023, we visited the spotter day at Bückeburg that was held two days before the Tag der Bundeswehr 2023. Although in the confirmation it was said thy fully understood our wishes regarding photography and sun, it turned out we still had to stay on the north side of the runway. And that meant backlight of course. So photographic opportunities were not the best, to put it mildly. Luckily I managed to find escorts to most hangars, so all instructional and also preserved aircraft could be ticked off. And the PR lady really did her best, and escorted a few small groups to the flightline with the Tigers. And we were lucky we could join one of those groups. So all in all the score was very nice luckily. Here is a quick log of what was seen, including a few remarks.
Static area:
55+02 C-130J-30 no mks (arrived and flew local mission)
78+07 NH.90 no mks, no c/n plate, stripped fuselage on belly, TGEA0007
78+29 NH.90 scorpion badge, c/n 1119, TGEA029
79+29 NH.90 IHAZ, c/n 1135, TGEE029
82+54 EC.135 IHAZ
84+44 CH-53GA HSG 64
D-HABR H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HMFC B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ), c/n 3067
ZM518/18 Juno HT.1 1 FTS
D-EBBB L-18C (ex 96+07), also ex 54-725 and marked as such on tail
Flightline near Halle 8:
74+60 Tiger no unit mks, spec marking 2003-2023
74+62 Tiger no mks
74+64 Tiger no mks
78+38 NH.90 Fassberg demo team mks
79+05 NH.90 Fassberg demo team mks
79+15 NH.90 no mks
79+30 NH.90 IHAZ
79+36 NH.90 IHAZ, see Halle 9
79+37 NH.90 IHAZ
79+42 NH.90 IHAZ
82+51 EC.135 IHAZ
84+54 CH-53 no mks
2009/BHB Tigre no mks
Flightline near tower:
79+40 NH.90 no mks
D-HABP H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HABT H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HMFB B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HMFE B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ)
ZM515/15 Juni HT.1 1 FTS
Plus two EC.135s I still have to check on my camera
Halle 1:
(82+64) EC.135 not read off by me, mks not noted
Halle 2:
D-HMFD B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ), c/n 4195
Halle 4:
79+41 NH.90 mks not noted
(86+78) Bo.105P GIA, no mks, c/n 6078
87+10 Bo.105P GIA, mks not noted
99+29 OV.10 GIA, IHAZ mks
(N342DP) Pa.42 GIA, IHAZ mks, “Blue”
Halle 5:
82+52 EC.135 IHAZ
82+57 EC.135 IHAZ
82+61 EC.135 IHAZ
D-HABU H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HABW H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
Halle 8:
86+20 Bo.105P GIA, mks not noted
86+50 Bo.105P GIA, mks not noted
87+09 Bo.105P GIA, mks not noted
90+57 FWP.149D GIA, civil c/s, see remarks
91+62 FWP.149D GIA, mks not noted
91+81 P.149D GIA, mks not noted
99+17 OV-10 GIA, HFWS mks
99+20 OV-10 GIA, no mks
(N705JR) Pa.42 GIA, IHAZ mks, “Gold”
Halle 9:
79+28 NH.90 mks not noted
Halle 10:
79+36 NH.90 IHAZ, c/n 1422, see remarks
79+39 NH.90 mks not noted, see remarks
82+59 EC.135 IHAZ
D-HMFA B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ)
Lehrwerkstatt:
41+06 Alpha Jet A GIA, HFWS/TGrp 31 mks
72+14 UH-1D GIA, nose, dedicated simulator probably
75+01 Alouette 2 GIA, HFWS mks
(80+35) H-34G u. rest, bare metal (ex Bentlage according to mechanic)
88+01 Bo.105 GIA
90+57 FWP.149D GIA, LKG 49 mks, see remarks
99+45 G.91 GIA, XX mks
D-IIWE RC.500 GIA, civil only
Preserved around the base:
71+97 UH-1D pr, no mks
75+11 Alouette 2 pr gate, HFWS mks, spec c/s
75+55 Alouette 2 pr inside, HFWS mks, no tail
83+32 H-21 pr, no mks
(86+71?) Bo.105P pr, no mks, no c/n plate or call plate
87+55 Bo.105P pr, no mks
PB+132 Alouette 2 pr, unknown mks, id unknown
PL+409 Do.27A pr, c/n 284
QA+471 H-34 pr
As you can see, there is a problem with the instructional P.149s, as two of them carry serial 90+57. If somebody can check their c/n’s during the open day Saturday (or knows more about them) I would love to hear the result.
There was some shuffling of aircraft around during the day. At the begiing of the day 79+39 was in Halle 10, but early afternoon that was pulled out and replaced by 79+36.
Hopefully somebody can confirm the missing markings of the helicopters in Halle 4 during the openday.
The two Piper 42 haven’t been reported before AFAIK. Based on internet data, both arrived here last July, coming from Kassel.
Well, this was written in haste, so excuse any typos, but I hope this helps some of you. And please post additions or corrections.
Thanks to Robert for the company and driving!
After doing a few days in Germany for Air Defender 2023, we visited the spotter day at Bückeburg that was held two days before the Tag der Bundeswehr 2023. Although in the confirmation it was said thy fully understood our wishes regarding photography and sun, it turned out we still had to stay on the north side of the runway. And that meant backlight of course. So photographic opportunities were not the best, to put it mildly. Luckily I managed to find escorts to most hangars, so all instructional and also preserved aircraft could be ticked off. And the PR lady really did her best, and escorted a few small groups to the flightline with the Tigers. And we were lucky we could join one of those groups. So all in all the score was very nice luckily. Here is a quick log of what was seen, including a few remarks.
Static area:
55+02 C-130J-30 no mks (arrived and flew local mission)
78+07 NH.90 no mks, no c/n plate, stripped fuselage on belly, TGEA0007
78+29 NH.90 scorpion badge, c/n 1119, TGEA029
79+29 NH.90 IHAZ, c/n 1135, TGEE029
82+54 EC.135 IHAZ
84+44 CH-53GA HSG 64
D-HABR H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HMFC B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ), c/n 3067
ZM518/18 Juno HT.1 1 FTS
D-EBBB L-18C (ex 96+07), also ex 54-725 and marked as such on tail
Flightline near Halle 8:
74+60 Tiger no unit mks, spec marking 2003-2023
74+62 Tiger no mks
74+64 Tiger no mks
78+38 NH.90 Fassberg demo team mks
79+05 NH.90 Fassberg demo team mks
79+15 NH.90 no mks
79+30 NH.90 IHAZ
79+36 NH.90 IHAZ, see Halle 9
79+37 NH.90 IHAZ
79+42 NH.90 IHAZ
82+51 EC.135 IHAZ
84+54 CH-53 no mks
2009/BHB Tigre no mks
Flightline near tower:
79+40 NH.90 no mks
D-HABP H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HABT H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HMFB B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HMFE B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ)
ZM515/15 Juni HT.1 1 FTS
Plus two EC.135s I still have to check on my camera
Halle 1:
(82+64) EC.135 not read off by me, mks not noted
Halle 2:
D-HMFD B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ), c/n 4195
Halle 4:
79+41 NH.90 mks not noted
(86+78) Bo.105P GIA, no mks, c/n 6078
87+10 Bo.105P GIA, mks not noted
99+29 OV.10 GIA, IHAZ mks
(N342DP) Pa.42 GIA, IHAZ mks, “Blue”
Halle 5:
82+52 EC.135 IHAZ
82+57 EC.135 IHAZ
82+61 EC.135 IHAZ
D-HABU H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
D-HABW H.135 no mks (IHAZ)
Halle 8:
86+20 Bo.105P GIA, mks not noted
86+50 Bo.105P GIA, mks not noted
87+09 Bo.105P GIA, mks not noted
90+57 FWP.149D GIA, civil c/s, see remarks
91+62 FWP.149D GIA, mks not noted
91+81 P.149D GIA, mks not noted
99+17 OV-10 GIA, HFWS mks
99+20 OV-10 GIA, no mks
(N705JR) Pa.42 GIA, IHAZ mks, “Gold”
Halle 9:
79+28 NH.90 mks not noted
Halle 10:
79+36 NH.90 IHAZ, c/n 1422, see remarks
79+39 NH.90 mks not noted, see remarks
82+59 EC.135 IHAZ
D-HMFA B.206B-3 no mks (IHAZ)
Lehrwerkstatt:
41+06 Alpha Jet A GIA, HFWS/TGrp 31 mks
72+14 UH-1D GIA, nose, dedicated simulator probably
75+01 Alouette 2 GIA, HFWS mks
(80+35) H-34G u. rest, bare metal (ex Bentlage according to mechanic)
88+01 Bo.105 GIA
90+57 FWP.149D GIA, LKG 49 mks, see remarks
99+45 G.91 GIA, XX mks
D-IIWE RC.500 GIA, civil only
Preserved around the base:
71+97 UH-1D pr, no mks
75+11 Alouette 2 pr gate, HFWS mks, spec c/s
75+55 Alouette 2 pr inside, HFWS mks, no tail
83+32 H-21 pr, no mks
(86+71?) Bo.105P pr, no mks, no c/n plate or call plate
87+55 Bo.105P pr, no mks
PB+132 Alouette 2 pr, unknown mks, id unknown
PL+409 Do.27A pr, c/n 284
QA+471 H-34 pr
As you can see, there is a problem with the instructional P.149s, as two of them carry serial 90+57. If somebody can check their c/n’s during the open day Saturday (or knows more about them) I would love to hear the result.
There was some shuffling of aircraft around during the day. At the begiing of the day 79+39 was in Halle 10, but early afternoon that was pulled out and replaced by 79+36.
Hopefully somebody can confirm the missing markings of the helicopters in Halle 4 during the openday.
The two Piper 42 haven’t been reported before AFAIK. Based on internet data, both arrived here last July, coming from Kassel.
Well, this was written in haste, so excuse any typos, but I hope this helps some of you. And please post additions or corrections.
Thanks to Robert for the company and driving!
Cheers,
Patrick Dirksen
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
H-145 just arrived as SAR support for the Tag Der Bundeswehr Buckeburg.
77+07 H-145 (according adsb)
77+07 H-145 (according adsb)
Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
Great list! Additions: the EC-135 flying as a pair and parked near the tower were 82+55 and 82+56. In the afternoon two US C-130H were crossing the field inbound Wunstorf: 90-1798 (MO ANG) and 91-1237 (DE ANG). From the other side of the field in the morning at least 1 Tiger and 1 NH90 were seen inside Halle 7, but not noted due to obstructed view.
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
Where can I find the C/N plate?
of a Piaggio 149
of a Piaggio 149
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
In the cockpit, behind the headrest of the seat. Go for it Wim!
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
82+55 and 82+56. Also 77+07 was parked there this evening (Friday). On the static also 83+07 was presentpatrick dirksen wrote: ↑16 Jun 2023, 11:56
Flightline near tower:
Plus two EC.135s I still have to check on my camera
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
Tiger 74+43 nmks was also on static
79+15 was flying had THR30 mks
79+39 now also flying
79+41 in Halle 4 c/n 1449 was read
79+42 on static c/n 1450 read
82+64 in Halle 1 confirmed
77+07 H.145M SAR confirmed
D-HTMJ H145 red c/s MFG5 badge
3H-DC DA.40 Austrian AF
Halle 5:
Only 82+61 and behind the net 82+52 and D-HABU
Flying:
GAF207 54+33
GNY4521 P-3C 60+08 *
GAF957 55+03
GAM200B 2 ship EC135 arr back, ADSB showed 82+57 as one, anyone for these 2?
GAF846 was seen.dep PM on ADSB, should be CH53 84+54 that did not join the mass formation at 16PM
79+15 was flying had THR30 mks
79+39 now also flying
79+41 in Halle 4 c/n 1449 was read
79+42 on static c/n 1450 read
82+64 in Halle 1 confirmed
77+07 H.145M SAR confirmed
D-HTMJ H145 red c/s MFG5 badge
3H-DC DA.40 Austrian AF
Halle 5:
Only 82+61 and behind the net 82+52 and D-HABU
Flying:
GAF207 54+33
GNY4521 P-3C 60+08 *
GAF957 55+03
GAM200B 2 ship EC135 arr back, ADSB showed 82+57 as one, anyone for these 2?
GAF846 was seen.dep PM on ADSB, should be CH53 84+54 that did not join the mass formation at 16PM
Last edited by erik_kamphuis on 17 Jun 2023, 22:28, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
Do27 D-EDFL/(5684) arrived mid day.
The Piaggio 9057 (ex Bentlage) in the Lehrwerkstatt looked like the real deal.
It has 9057 on instr panel and sticker from Rheine Bentlage 1984/2017.
Halle 8 was off limits today.
The Piaggio 9057 (ex Bentlage) in the Lehrwerkstatt looked like the real deal.
It has 9057 on instr panel and sticker from Rheine Bentlage 1984/2017.
Halle 8 was off limits today.
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
82+57 & D-HABW. Read off by Fink123!erik_kamphuis wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 20:31 GAM200B 2 ship EC135 arr back, ADSB showed 82+57 as one, anyone for these 2?
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
Hall 1, with also ec135 82+64 in it, was behind the net ec135 82+53.
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Re: Tag der Bundeswehr 17 June 2023 Buckeburg Kaufbeuren
I see there were 3 OV-10.
Wich one was on static near the C-130 on friday?
Thanks
Wich one was on static near the C-130 on friday?
Thanks