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GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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I have been told that between GAF callsigns 002 to 999, that there are no set callsigns block for types of GAF FBS/LTG aircraft/helicopters.

However I have also been told that blocks of callsigns for types do exists.....

any comments or offers most welcome....
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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Based on my Mode-S logs

10+21 thru 10+27 all ranges except GAF7xx funny enough
14+01 thru 14+04 seem to fly in GAF6xx range only
15+01 Thru 15+02 Logged them in GAF0xx, 2xx, 4xx, 5xx, 6xx, 8xx & 9xx / GAF6xx & GAF8xx are most common though
16+01 Thru 16+02 GAF8xx & GAF9xx Range / GAF9xx most common
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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Thank you Joost,

Most interesting reply....any comments on the following blocks???
GAF 680-689 UH-1D FBS
GAF 701-709 Do-28 FBS
GAF 720-729 CL-601 FBS
GAF 880-889 CL-601 FBS
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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Robin wrote:Thank you Joost,

Most interesting reply....any comments on the following blocks???
GAF 680-689 UH-1D FBS
GAF 701-709 Do-28 FBS
GAF 720-729 CL-601 FBS
GAF 880-889 CL-601 FBS
CL601 are out of service, believe also for Do-28 and do believe UH-1D are HEER so they won't fly with GAF c/s (anymore), not sure about the latter though.
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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joost wrote:
Robin wrote:Thank you Joost,

Most interesting reply....any comments on the following blocks???
GAF 680-689 UH-1D FBS
GAF 701-709 Do-28 FBS
GAF 720-729 CL-601 FBS
GAF 880-889 CL-601 FBS
CL601 are out of service, believe also for Do-28 and do believe UH-1D are HEER so they won't fly with GAF c/s (anymore), not sure about the latter though.
If callsign blocks existed in the past!!!!!!

do they still exist on the current FBS fleet, and if so what are they?????
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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If you look at my first reply, youl would have notice I have mentioned the current FBS aircraft
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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Is there any logic to the German C-160D Callsigns....i.e. GAF***

i.e. is there a block of callsign's assigned for German Chancellor Angela Merkel support, i.e. cars etc....
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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Interesting because I see a lot of GAF callsigns in my SBS receiver that aren't linked to registrations, even airframes doesn't know the registrations that are linked to GAF mode s.

From my log:
ICAO, REG, ALTITUDE, TYPE,CALLSIGN
3F5EF7 old12+02 11375 GAF320
3F837A .NO-REG 19975 GAF468 (this is most probably a C130 or a C160)
3F4E27 14+02 31125 GL5T GAF613
3F70F1 .NO-REG 20975 GAF914 (this is most probably a C130 or a C160)
3F9D8B .NO-REG 21175 GAF674 (this is most probably a C130 or a C160)

How can you recognize a GAF C130/C160 via SBS with no known registration? Via callsign GAF*** and flying steady around 20000 ft, loaded service ceiling is 23000 ft. GHOST i thought is e.g. a known callsign for a GAF C160.

I now try to collect the callsigns for C130/C160 and link the callsigns to type i.e. C160 or TOR and if possible to a registration.

To answer your questions: I don't think there is a block speacially for Merkel or something like that.
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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It would appear that the C-160D's have some fixed callsign, these being GAF (followed by 1 or 2 letter), then two numbers... i.e. GAFW01-99

However the question remains regarding the others callsigns i.e. GAF (followed by 3 numbers), is there any logic, and if so, are these route or task fixed numbers (be they C-160 or other types)...

Any comments on the GAF701 to 799 block most welcome......
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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@Gustav, there are no German C-130's. Ghost looks more like a callsign of Tornado or Typhoon to me. But I could be wrong of course.

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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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Robin wrote:It would appear that the C-160D's have some fixed callsign, these being GAF (followed by 1 or 2 letter), then two numbers... i.e. GAFW01-99
GAFE callsigns are highly probable C160 because they were flying steady around 20000 ft. See a lot of GAFE callsigns. Found also a GAFN callsign but flying at 28000 ft. Could be an empty C160.

I have a lot of GAF727, GAF759, GAF712 flying steady at 20000 so probbaly C160

GAF775 (3FB291), GAF709 (3EA3F2) were flying constantly very low, probably heli's.
michel N wrote:@Gustav, there are no German C-130's. Ghost looks more like a callsign of Tornado or Typhoon to me. But I could be wrong of course.
Didn't know that. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lo ... _operators Germany has one C130 although civilian :)

I know C130's uses GHOST callsigns, USAF C130's but GAF uses them too probably for the C160's but fighter jets could use them too. Most of the USAF callsigns are used by the Germans too, even NL air force uses the same callsigns like VADER, MATRIX, PACK etc but these are fighter jet callsigns. But other airplane types use GHOST callsign probably too. NL Chinook for example.
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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GAFE callsigns are Büchel Tornado's, GAFN I'm not sure though, but I suppose Nörvenich Typhoons.
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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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gustav wrote:
Robin wrote:It would appear that the C-160D's have some fixed callsign, these being GAF (followed by 1 or 2 letter), then two numbers... i.e. GAFW01-99
GAFE callsigns are highly probable C160 because they were flying steady around 20000 ft. See a lot of GAFE callsigns. Found also a GAFN callsign but flying at 28000 ft. Could be an empty C160.

I have a lot of GAF727, GAF759, GAF712 flying steady at 20000 so probbaly C160

GAF775 (3FB291), GAF709 (3EA3F2) were flying constantly very low, probably heli's.
michel N wrote:@Gustav, there are no German C-130's. Ghost looks more like a callsign of Tornado or Typhoon to me. But I could be wrong of course.
Didn't know that. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lo ... _operators Germany has one C130 although civilian :)

I know C130's uses GHOST callsigns, USAF C130's but GAF uses them too probably for the C160's. Most of the USAF callsigns are used by the Germans too, even NL air force uses the same callsigns like VADER, MATRIX, PACK etc but these are fighter jet callsigns. But other airplane types use GHOST callsign probably too. NL Chinook for example.
Hi Gustav,

Never noticed MATRIX, VADER and PACK as Dutch callsigns. I think MATRIX is a Belgian OCU callsign and VADER and PACK are Norvenich Eurofighters I think.

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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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VADER and PACK are almost used on a daily basis by the GAF [i.e. not literally daily but they use them a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]. MATRIX you could be right used by the BAF and USAF. Wasn't a good example but it was to explain that callsigns are interchangeable between countries and airplane types..

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Re: GAF Callsigns 002 to 999

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Flying steady doesnt mean its a C160 .
eg a tornado proceeding over the Holland from navpi(boundry point with UK airspace) to milgi( point for entering Germany) will fly steady level between these points.
Only thing what will be different is the speed between aircraft

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