Florennes (EBFS) - 2008

[Piet Luijken]

The overview for the aircraft participating in TLP 2009-3 have been summarized at the following page:

http://www.scramble.nl/databases/tlp/tl ... 9&period=3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Please send/publish all your logs.
Also you could send me some photo's to add to the overview page via tlp@scramble.nl.

greetings

[Redskin301]

4x mirage 2000N is also a very nice participant, but the main goal for now will be the Turkish F-4's

[Wim]

Local F-16’s at maintenance hangar (North of the runway):
FA67
FB21
FB08 (for Jordan)

Local F-16’s in the morning:
FA67 (testfilght)
FA68/FS
FA84
FA89/FS
FA92/FS
FA101 (demo)
FA115/FS
FA117
FA126/FS

Local F-16’s in the afternoon:
FA68/FS
FA84
FA92/FS
FA108
FA128 (s/c)
FB05/FS

CSAR mission:
A.109BA (BAF) – H-21 : take off (11h35), landing (12h50)
A.109BA (BAF) – H-?? : take off (11h35), landing (12h50)
E-3A (NATO) – LX-N90453 : take off (12h02)
Mi35 (CzAF) – 3368 : take off (13h38), landing (16h39)
Mi24V (CzAF) – 7357 : take off (13h38), landing (16h39)
IAR.330 SOCAT (Romanian AF) – 61 : take off (13h43), landing (16h10)
IAR.330 SOCAT (Romanian AF) – 94 : take off (13h43), landing (16h10)
UH-1D (GAF) – 71+28 : take off (13h43), landing (16h35)
UH-1D (GAF) – 71+40 : take off (13h43), landing (16h35)
Merlin (Italian Navy) – MM81635/2-20 : take off (13h43), landing (16h10)
HH-3F (AMI) – MM80976/15-03 : take off (13h47), landing (16h08)
HH-3F (AMI) – MM80988/15-19 : take off (13h47), landing (16h08)
SA.330B (FAF) – 1321/AH : take off (13h48), landing (16h11)
EC-725 (FAF) – 2549/SB : take off (13h48), landing (16h11)
AMX (AMI) – MM7131/51-11 : take off (14h15), landing (15h43)
AMX (AMI) – MM7133/51-32 (s/c) : take off (14h15), landing (15h43)

Visitors:
C-130J (AMI) – MM62196/46-62 : arrival (14h12)
A.109BA (BAF) – H-21 : departure (15h50)
A.109BA (BAF) – H-?? : departure (15h50)
AMX (AMI) – MM7131/51-11 : departure (17h05)
AMX (AMI) – MM7133/51-32 (s/c) : departure (17h05)
C-130J (AMI) – MM62196/46-62 : arrival (17h20)

[pascal]

Hi Pascal,

I would go in week 3 or 4 when I were you, now you will miss some aircraft that will also come to the TLP!!!

In week 3/4 these are also to expect:
2 Czech Grippen
2 Italian F-16
2 Spanish Hornet
2 Turkish F-16

Also have a look at: http://www.florennes-as.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Per

Thanks for your comment. I had seen that info before. But I am not able to visit the TLP in week 3 or 4.

Pascal

[Piet Luijken]

Thanks to info from Luciano the Italian F-16s will be from 5 stormo 23 Gruppo!

Overview has been updated.

[Piet Luijken]

NOTAMS have been released with changes in the academic days!

H1328/08 (Issued for EGTT EGPX) - MAY 29 1045-1330 JUN 3 AND 5 1045-1330.
TLP LONG RANGE MISSION. UP TO 30 FAST JET ACFT WILL CONDUCT HIGH
ENERGY MANOEUVRES AND MAY BE UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH RULES OF AIR WI 53
22N 00130W-5500N 00300W-5600N 00245W-5600N 00300E-5324N 00333E-5213N
00235E-5213N 00022W-ORIGIN (WASH/EAST ANGLIA, SMDA, D513, NORTHUMBERL
AND, SPADEADAM AND OVERLAND NORTHEAST ENGLAND) . ACFT WILL AVOID CONT
ROLLED AIRSPACE UNLESS CLEARED BY OR UNDER CONTROL OF AN APPROPRIATE
AUTH. EXER ACFT WILL UTILISE SSR CODES 1601-1660 AND MAY BE SUBJ MIL
LOW FLYING REGULATIONS. CONTACT 0032 7168 1524.
AUS 08-05-0122/1415/AS3. SFC - FL240, 29 MAY 10:45 2008 UNTIL 05 JUN 13:30 2008.
CREATED: 09 MAY 09:44 2008

H1327/08 - MAY 21-23, 27-30, JUN 2-5, 9-12 1045-1330.
TLP MISSION. UP TO 30 FAST JET ACFT WILL CONDUCT HIGH ENERGY
MANOEUVRES AND MAY BE UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH RULES OF AIR WI 5322N
00130W-5338N 00030E-5328N 00230E-5237N 00253E-5213N 00235E-5213N
00022W-ORIGIN (WASH/EAST ANGLIA). ACFT WILL AVOID CONTROLLED
AIRSPACE UNLESS CLEARED BY OR UNDER CONTROL OF AN APPROPRIATE AUTH.
EXER ACFT WILL UTILISE SSR CODES 1601-1660 AND MAY BE SUBJ MIL LOW
FLYING REGULATIONS.CONTACT 0032 7168 1524.
AUS 08-05-0122/1414/AS3. SFC - FL240, 21 MAY 10:45 2008 UNTIL 12 JUN 13:30 2008.
CREATED: 09 MAY 09:40 2008

B3247/08 - 'TLP FLYING COURSE 2008-03' EXERCISE REQUIRING THE CREATION OF 3
TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREAS AND 1 TEMPORARY DANGER AREA : SEE
AIP SUP NR 062/08. 500FT AGL - FL195, MAY 22 27 28 1030-1245, JUN 02 10 11 1030-1245,
22 MAY 10:30 2008 UNTIL 11 JUN 12:45 2008. CREATED: 08 MAY 00:08 2008

Overview has been updated

[wapo84]

15/05
ETD1400 GAF305 3UH1
ETD1330 I0976 EBFS LFSD 2S61R

16/05
ETD0800 ROF401 EBFS EDDE 2IAR330 61 94

[Oscar01]

Interesting(?) notam for EBFS (Florennes) states that they don't have any F-18 fuel.................. mistake, or.........?

Oscar

[Thijs]

Interesting(?) notam for EBFS (Florennes) states that they don't have any F-18 fuel.................. mistake, or.........?

Oscar

Correct

But you don't need F-18 Fuel to fuel a F-18. Probably they use JET-A1 to fuel a F-18.

Found some more info, the F number (next to the diafragma) is a NATO code for (aviation) fuel.

Example:
JP-8 is the military equivalent of Jet A-1 with the addition of corrosion inhibitor and anti-icing additives; it meets the requirements of the U.S. Military Specification MIL-DTL-83133E. JP-8 also meets the requirements of the British Specification DEF STAN 91-87 AVTUR/FSII (formerly DERD 2453). NATO Code F-34.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/jetfuel.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

All the codes can be found here.

http://www.nato.int/docu/logi-en/1997/lo-15a.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

F-18
is an aviation gasoline (low lead) in limited use by certain NATO nations. Also known as AVGAS 100LL.

With a big thanks to GOOGLE

[herky]

Yep, F-18 is fuel for piston engines aircraft like the Harvard, Beech 18 etc.

[Piet Luijken]

AVGAS 100LL aka F18 is used in piston driven aircraft like the Cessna 152 and bigger.

JET A-1 aka F34 is used in turbine driven aircraft like the F-18.

So no problems!

[Oscar01]

Thanks a lot!

Learnt a lot again

Oscar

[falcon]

INFO: the Oktober session will see Typhoons from Grosseto.

Cheerz
George

[herky]

You are

[Piet Luijken]

Spanish Hornets will be from Ala15, maybe of the MLU EF-18M type.
But there will be some pilots from Torrejon as well.

gr