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Re: 104's
A Belgian one from my collection.
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Re: 104's
I took this pic on a mondaymorning in 1994 when four AMI Starfighters came to Soesterberg AB for refueling on their way to the UK for a rotation
Soesterberg AB 21-03-1994:
MM6719/51-06 F-104S 22Gr "I6937B"
MM6739/51-01 F-104S 22Gr "I6937A"
MM6764/51-03 F-104S 22Gr "I6719A"
MM6937/51-16 F-104S 22Gr "I6719B"
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Re: 104's
Hy!
Every dutch F-104's were light grey in 1960's and early 70's ? Very rare a photo was taken of the grey machines. D-8331 were grey, you are already the dark green/dark grey/light grey colours arrived in the Koninklijke Luchtmacht ?
Every dutch F-104's were light grey in 1960's and early 70's ? Very rare a photo was taken of the grey machines. D-8331 were grey, you are already the dark green/dark grey/light grey colours arrived in the Koninklijke Luchtmacht ?
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Re: 104's
No, not every Dutch Starfighter was delivered by Fokker (D-8xxx series) in air-defence grey livery. Fokker built four variants, air-defence, recce, fighter-bomber and basic. Basically air-defence, recce and basic Starfighters were delivered in air-defence grey as well as all Starfighters built by Fiat (D-66xx series) and Lockheed (D-5xxx). Basically, fighter-bomber Starfighters were delivered in three-tone green / dark grey / light grey, but there was a lot of swapping around between Twenthe (OCU and 306), Leeuwarden (322 and 323, air defence) and Volkel (311 and 312, fighter-bomber).
Starfighter operations started at Twenthe, with air-defence grey aircraft. The first six aircraft that went to Leeuwarden were all grey (D-80xx) and Volkel aircraft were mostly three-tone (starting at D-82xx). A lot of Leeuwarden aircraft ended-up at Volkel in air-defence grey and some air-to-ground ones were delivered to Leeuwarden. The second-to last aircraft, D-8341, was built as basic and delivered in air-defence grey to Leeuwarden the last aircraft, D-8343 was also built as basic and delivered in air-defence grey but to Volkel.
Late 1960s, all aircraft were painted in the three-tone camouflage scheme, also the Leeuwarden ones. The last two were D-8121 and D-8341 which were painted in the three-tone scheme in 1970.
D-8331 was built as fighter-bomber but delivered to Leeuwarden in 1965. When Leeuwarden started to prepare for the F-16 in 1979, it was transferred to Volkel where it ended it's career with 312 and UFO. It is now preserved in the USA.
Mickey
PS: Dug this picture up from my archives (it's a Lockheed picture, the stamp is on the back). All four were built as fighter-bombers and delivered to Volkel, but as you can see, D-8257 is air-defence grey.
Some more air-defence grey Starfighters from my collection:
Starfighter operations started at Twenthe, with air-defence grey aircraft. The first six aircraft that went to Leeuwarden were all grey (D-80xx) and Volkel aircraft were mostly three-tone (starting at D-82xx). A lot of Leeuwarden aircraft ended-up at Volkel in air-defence grey and some air-to-ground ones were delivered to Leeuwarden. The second-to last aircraft, D-8341, was built as basic and delivered in air-defence grey to Leeuwarden the last aircraft, D-8343 was also built as basic and delivered in air-defence grey but to Volkel.
Late 1960s, all aircraft were painted in the three-tone camouflage scheme, also the Leeuwarden ones. The last two were D-8121 and D-8341 which were painted in the three-tone scheme in 1970.
D-8331 was built as fighter-bomber but delivered to Leeuwarden in 1965. When Leeuwarden started to prepare for the F-16 in 1979, it was transferred to Volkel where it ended it's career with 312 and UFO. It is now preserved in the USA.
Mickey
PS: Dug this picture up from my archives (it's a Lockheed picture, the stamp is on the back). All four were built as fighter-bombers and delivered to Volkel, but as you can see, D-8257 is air-defence grey.
Some more air-defence grey Starfighters from my collection:
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Re: 104's
Don't steal my pictures...
- Leeuwarden
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Re: 104's
Don't steal my pictures...
Re: 104's
Photographed one of my old friends from the aircraft-recognition book of the Soviets - USSR, Bataysk flight-school 1961:
A MiG-17 driver with this book in 1963 at Kuschevskaya AB:
WP pilots opinion about the 104 in those times = very-very sexy plane
If these pics. are off-topic...sorry !
A MiG-17 driver with this book in 1963 at Kuschevskaya AB:
WP pilots opinion about the 104 in those times = very-very sexy plane
If these pics. are off-topic...sorry !