Marana-Pinal Air Park-Shell AHP - 2010

[wamovements]

During a great 4aviation trip to the U.S., we had, after doing AMARG Air-to-Ground, some fuel left for a single pass overhead Marana / Pinal Air Park /Shell AHP

As I am not into civil, hereby our LOG from Saterday 20 Novembr 2010. As only the last three are worn in white, Fiscal years are assumped. Some of the Apaches had the Longbow Radar attached.

AH-64D 1-285th AVN (AZ ArNG mks)
01-05275
01-05237
00-05228
01-05236
01-05236
00-05215
02-05315
00-05223

OH-58C WAATS (AZ ArNG mks)
69-16347
71-20465
69-16204
69-16206

OH-58D WAATS(AZ ArNG mks)
95-00081

Unread, due to the lack of white serials, were about 12 Apaches (about twenty in toal present) and there was also one more H-58 (so six in total)

Beside that, they have three helicopters on gate, which should be the following (not read off):
70-15153 OH-58A
66-15255 AH-1G
67-15471 AH-1S

On Pinal Air Park was a single F-101 under restaurantion, serial unknown to me.
Also there were two, altough civil registered, interesting C.212 parked (N426CA and N497CA), but our pilot of this overflight was also a C.212 pilot flying these two around the globe

Regards
Dennis Peteri

[wamovements]

Edit:

After looking at the Cactus yahoo group reveiled that the F-101 is the 57-0332.
And suprise, one of the B747 Bare Metal with a rare bumb behind the cockpit is USAF E-4B 75-0125!!!!!

regards
Dennis Peteri

[hawk666]

If we are talking the same place ( i.e the compound alongside the road to the ANG base ) then when I drove past it last week , it contained a single-seat F-101 marked 32418 ( making it the first prod. aircraft ?? ) plus 2x F-89 ( one assembled , the other with wings off ) plus an H-34 . I don't think I was dreaming

[pjotrtje]

In 2007 I noted the following in that compound (located at N32°30'29.10" W111°18'49.73") in various recognizable stages of assembly/storage:
145326 TF-8A
57-332 F-101F
62-4432 F-105G
59-0137 F-106A
Interesting compound with that ever changing material!

it contained a single-seat F-101 marked 32418

Isn't that the aircraft that was preserved at the Pueblo Memorial Airport?

[wamovements]

It was in an area close to the HU-16B's on the right side of the road in a corner. Didn't notice the other aircraft, but probabaly they were there as well.

regards
Dennis Peteri

[hawk666]

Sounds like the same place. How odd that they change that often, or does Evergreen trade in such things ?

[AndyMarden]

It is effectively a restoration area for their museum at McMinnville, Oregon.
Andy Marden

USAMOOS

[The DJ]

Dennis, some corrections in red.

Regards,
Mark

During a great 4aviation trip to the U.S., we had, after doing AMARG Air-to-Ground, some fuel left for a single pass overhead Marana / Pinal Air Park /Shell AHP

As I am not into civil, hereby our LOG from Saterday 20 Novembr 2010. As only the last three are worn in white, Fiscal years are assumped. Some of the Apaches had the Longbow Radar attached.

AH-64D 1-285th AVN (AZ ArNG mks)
01-05275
01-05237
00-05228
01-05236
01-05236
00-05215 Are you sure a D-model? They have A-model 89-00215
02-05315 Again they have A-model 90-00315
00-05223

OH-58C WAATS (AZ ArNG mks)
69-16347
71-20465
69-16204
69-16206

OH-58D WAATS(AZ ArNG mks)
95-00081 =72-21081 Don't think they have D-models here

Unread, due to the lack of white serials, were about 12 Apaches (about twenty in toal present) and there was also one more H-58 (so six in total)

Beside that, they have three helicopters on gate, which should be the following (not read off):
70-15143 OH-58A
66-15255 AH-1G
67-15471 AH-1S

On Pinal Air Park was a single F-101 under restaurantion, serial unknown to me.
Also there were two, altough civil registered, interesting C.212 parked (N426CA and N497CA), but our pilot of this overflight was also a C.212 pilot flying these two around the globe

Regards
Dennis Peteri

[The DJ]

Now we are on the subject, anyone know the second H-34 that was there in mar09?

The following were logged back then:

• UNITED STATES AF PHOTO 57-0332 F-101F STORAGE EX CF CF-101F 101024
  UNITED STATES AF PHOTO 53-2607 F-89D STORAGE WRECKAGE, Tail Mkd 607
  UNITED STATES AF PHOTO 56-3861/AD417 QF-100F STORAGE
  UNITED STATES NY PHOTO 138460 UH-34G STORAGE
  UNITED STATES NY PHOTO ? UH-34G STORAGE No Markings

MTIA,
Mark

[wamovements]

I checked apache 315 and 215 and both didnt had a Longbow radar attached, so a normal AH-64A model is possible as well. Thanks

regards
Dennis

[Edwin]

Dennis, I agree fully with the comments of The DJ. Can you check one additional Apache for me? I have doubts about 223 as they do have the A-model 89-00223 as well as D-model 00-05223. For your reference, an AH-64A has a small and long air data sensor positioned above the rotorhead, while an AH-64D mostly carries the obvious Longbow rader or has 'provisions for' (like the Dutch Apaches).

Best regards,
Edwin

[wamovements]

I'll check tonight, let you know.

Regards
Dennis

[747woody]

Going through some old photos from Silverbell a few years ago (1st March 2009!) and stumbled across this.

I have a photo that shows an AH-64 '223' which I'm confident is a D. A close study of the photos shows that the A doesn't have the strobe lights on the engine casings and the D doesn't have the air data sensor on top of the rotorhead (as pointed out above). Very few of the US Ds seem to carry the Longbow radar, so that's not a good indicator (and a quick Google suggests it's removeable).

[Sjoerd]

Going through some old photos from Silverbell a few years ago (March 2009!) and stumbled across this.

I have a photo that shows an AH-64 '223' which I'm confident is a D. A close study of the photos shows that the A doesn't have the strobe lights on the engine casings and the D doesn't have the air data sensor on top of the rotorhead (as pointed out above). Very few of the US Ds seem to carry the Longbow radar, so that's not a good indicator (and a quick Google suggests it's removeable).

I was there on 8th of March 2009 and can confirm I also noted 00-05223, a D model. We also did a photo flight, so should have a photo to confirm this. Still missing from that day are 3 AAC Apaches and about 5 Singapore Apaches.

[747woody]

On 1st March 2009, from photos (last three in white, details in brackets from previous reports, or the database):

OH-58C:
(69-16)204,
(69-16)206,
(-----)343,
(69-16)347,
(71-20)465,
(68-26)769
+1 without last three in white

AH-64A:
(8)9-00247,
(9)0-00286,
(9)0-00315,
(90-00)337,
one ending 53
plus one

AH-64D:
(96-05)013 (Longbow),
(96-05)016,
(97-05)026,
(97-05)034,
(98-05)064,
(99-05)142,
(00-05)181,
(00-05)202,
(00-05)204,
(00-05)223,
(01-05)237,
one ending 29
one ending 74 (Longbow)
one ending 75 (Longbow)
plus three

Plus at least one AAC Apache (and two more with Longbow - UK??)

Visible in the previously mentioned compound are two H-34s plus a couple of jets.
Edit: on closer inspection there is a dismantled F-101 next to the H-34s, an F-89 fuselage on it's own and what looks like a camo F-100 fuselage next to a shiny shed.