Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September 2018 - Belgian Air Force Days
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
Did the Slovakian C-27 leave on Friday?
Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
No, still there on saturday
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
In the shelter area, invisible to the public?michel N wrote:No, still there on saturday
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
Posted somewhere earlier in this thread: could be seen from crowd centre..
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
Losing track after 16 pages...... must have missed her (both here and for real)frank kramer wrote:Posted somewhere earlier in this thread: could be seen from crowd centre..
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
Our log from Sunday!
Kleine Brogel – Belgian Air Days – Sunday 09-09-2018
base museum
FA38 F-16A preserved ex Belgian Air Force special c/s, (with tail of FA25)
FX02 F-104G preserved ex Belgian Air Force grey Tiger c/s
FX41 F-104G preserved ex Belgian Air Force fuselage in parts
FX61 F-104G preserved ex Belgian Air Force (tail of FX63?)
MT14 CM170 preserved ex Belgian Air Force in display c/s
near entrance
FA16 F-16A preserved ex Belgian Air Force special tail
FS17/DMB F-84E preserved ex Belgian Air Force
FU66/RA-T F-84F preserved ex Belgian Air Force
FX86 F-104G preserved ex Belgian Air Force
maintenance hangar
FA107 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FB15 F-16BM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA136 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA131 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
static near maintenance hangar
FA05 F-16A ground exhibit Belgian Air Component special tail
288 B-Hunter 80 80(UAV)sq Belgian Air Component
078/YE Embr.121AA EAT00.319 French Air Force
H16 A109BA ground exhibit Belgian Air Component special c/s
ST43 SF260D 1 wing Belgian Air Component
AT12 Alpha Jet 1B+ 1 wing Belgian Air Component
FB24 F-16BM 10 wing Belgian Air Component OCUsm tail
PL30/OO-YDA DG-300 Beauvechain Belgian Air Cadets
D-EBLE Cessna F172M private
static
08-0050 CV-22B 7th SOS/352nd SOW USAF
LX-N90446 E-3A NAEW&CF NATO
EC-400 A.400M Airbus Military 100yr RAF tail
RS05 Sea King Mk48 40sm/15 wing Belgian Air Component special c/s
6107 Mi-8MT unknown Polish Air Force
OO-RYL/472922/L2-W TF-51D private “Scat VII”, ex 44-72922 USAF
D-EBVV/58 SV-4B private ex V58 Belgian Air Force
OO-LUK/V41 SV-4B private ex V41 Belgian Air Force
NX377WW/137777/KV-863 T-28B private ex 137777 USNavy
F-HBKT/T EC120B EA-ALAT Helidax
19611 EH101 Mk516 Esq 751 Portuguese Air Force
ZH851/84 Merlin HM2 824NAS Royal Navy
3E-KA SE3160 FR2/1St Austrian Air Force
M-502 EH101 Mk512 Esk 722 Royal Danish Air Force
1335/EAV NH90 TTH 1 RHC French Army
6013/BJM Tigre HAD 1 RHC French Army
G11 MD900 Belgian Police
M2 SA316 40sm/15 wing Belgian Air Component
305/4-EC Rafale B EC01.004 French Air Force
Q-24 AH-64D 301sqn KLu
D-667 CH-47D 298sqn KLu
MM7359/32-09 F-35A 13Gr/32St Italian Air Force
ZK348/348 Typhoon FGR4 29OCUsq Royal Air Force
57+05 Do228-212NG MFG3 German Marine
G-ONAA//99+18 OV-10B private ex 99+18 Luftwaffe
FA116 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component tiger c/s
46+07 Tornado IDS(T) TLG33 Luftwaffe
FA104 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component 349sm badge
1303 MiG-29UBS 1 BL Slovak Air Force tiger c/s
ET-199 F-16BM Esk 730 Royal Danish Air Force
ZK027/R Hawk T2 4FTS Royal Air Force
ZK025/P Hawk T2 4FTS Royal Air Force
OO-NEW Sonaca 200 private
D-EOHB Stemme S15-1 private
71 Blue Su-27UBM1 831 BrTA Ukraine Air Force
58 Blue Su-27P1M 831 BrTA Ukraine Air Force
G-KAXF/N-294 Hunter F6A DHHA
flying / other side
CE03 ERJ-145LR 21sm/15 wing Belgian Air Component
FA70 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA101 F-16AM 2 wing Belgian Air Component Dark Falcon c/s
FA103 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA106 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA134 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
H21 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H44 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H45 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
RN04 NH90 NFH 40sm/15 wing Belgian Air Component
ST22 SF260MD 1 wing Belgian Air Component Red Devils c/s
ST31 SF260MD 1 wing Belgian Air Component Red Devils c/s
ST34 SF260MD 1 wing Belgian Air Component Red Devils c/s
ST35 SF260MD 1 wing Belgian Air Component Red Devils c/s
9234 JAS-39C 211tl Czech Air Force spec. c/s
E-607 F-16AM Esk 730 Royal Danish Air Force
T-409 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
T-410 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
T-414 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
T-430 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
T-432 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
160/62-IS CN235-200 ET01.064 French Air Force
E44/1/FUHRE Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E98/2/FTEMF Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E119/3/FUGFE Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E152/4//FUHRT Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E146/5/FUHRR Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E139/6/FUGFC Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E113/7/FTETD Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E45/8/FTETF Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E68/9/FTEMO Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E127/0/FUGFK Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
529 F-16C 343Mira Hellenic Air Force Zeus demo
ZK317/317 Typhoon FGR4 29OCUsq Royal Air Force
ZK318 Typhoon FGR4 29OCUsq Royal Air Force 100yr RAF tail
1931 C-27J Slovak Air Force
C.15-39/15-26 EF-18A ALA 15 Spanish Air Force
C.15-30/15-17 EF-18A ALA 15 Spanish Air Force
J-5003/003 F/A-18C FlSt 11 Swiss Air Force
J-5013/013 F/A-18C FlSt 11 Swiss Air Force
C-FPSH Do228-202 Summit Air RAF Falcons
D-EXBE EA-330SC private
D-6081 Marganski S-1 Swift private
G-CIBM/4 RV-8 private Team Raven
G-CJSM/2 RV-8 private Team Raven
G-EGRV/3 RV-8 private Team Raven
G-MAXV/1 RV-4 private Team Raven
G-VFDS/5 RV-8 private Team Raven
N216DM/MT-5 CM170 private ex MT5, Belgian Air Force
OO-EBU/2 PA-28-161 private, “The Victors”
OO-VCU/3 PA-28-161 private, “The Victors”
OO-VMC/4 PA-28-161 private, “The Victors”
OO-VMX PA-28-161 private, “The Victors”
OO-SDJ EA330 private
OO-XVI/SL721/AU-J Spitfire F.XVIe private
PH-BEW PA-25-235 private
PH-KHV/G-29 Beech Expeditor 3NM KLuHF
PH-LSK/B-64 AT-16ND KLuHF
PH-IIB/B-118 AT-16ND KLuHF
Breitling display team and Royal Jordanian Falcons not noted by us.
Kleine Brogel – Belgian Air Days – Sunday 09-09-2018
base museum
FA38 F-16A preserved ex Belgian Air Force special c/s, (with tail of FA25)
FX02 F-104G preserved ex Belgian Air Force grey Tiger c/s
FX41 F-104G preserved ex Belgian Air Force fuselage in parts
FX61 F-104G preserved ex Belgian Air Force (tail of FX63?)
MT14 CM170 preserved ex Belgian Air Force in display c/s
near entrance
FA16 F-16A preserved ex Belgian Air Force special tail
FS17/DMB F-84E preserved ex Belgian Air Force
FU66/RA-T F-84F preserved ex Belgian Air Force
FX86 F-104G preserved ex Belgian Air Force
maintenance hangar
FA107 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FB15 F-16BM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA136 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA131 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
static near maintenance hangar
FA05 F-16A ground exhibit Belgian Air Component special tail
288 B-Hunter 80 80(UAV)sq Belgian Air Component
078/YE Embr.121AA EAT00.319 French Air Force
H16 A109BA ground exhibit Belgian Air Component special c/s
ST43 SF260D 1 wing Belgian Air Component
AT12 Alpha Jet 1B+ 1 wing Belgian Air Component
FB24 F-16BM 10 wing Belgian Air Component OCUsm tail
PL30/OO-YDA DG-300 Beauvechain Belgian Air Cadets
D-EBLE Cessna F172M private
static
08-0050 CV-22B 7th SOS/352nd SOW USAF
LX-N90446 E-3A NAEW&CF NATO
EC-400 A.400M Airbus Military 100yr RAF tail
RS05 Sea King Mk48 40sm/15 wing Belgian Air Component special c/s
6107 Mi-8MT unknown Polish Air Force
OO-RYL/472922/L2-W TF-51D private “Scat VII”, ex 44-72922 USAF
D-EBVV/58 SV-4B private ex V58 Belgian Air Force
OO-LUK/V41 SV-4B private ex V41 Belgian Air Force
NX377WW/137777/KV-863 T-28B private ex 137777 USNavy
F-HBKT/T EC120B EA-ALAT Helidax
19611 EH101 Mk516 Esq 751 Portuguese Air Force
ZH851/84 Merlin HM2 824NAS Royal Navy
3E-KA SE3160 FR2/1St Austrian Air Force
M-502 EH101 Mk512 Esk 722 Royal Danish Air Force
1335/EAV NH90 TTH 1 RHC French Army
6013/BJM Tigre HAD 1 RHC French Army
G11 MD900 Belgian Police
M2 SA316 40sm/15 wing Belgian Air Component
305/4-EC Rafale B EC01.004 French Air Force
Q-24 AH-64D 301sqn KLu
D-667 CH-47D 298sqn KLu
MM7359/32-09 F-35A 13Gr/32St Italian Air Force
ZK348/348 Typhoon FGR4 29OCUsq Royal Air Force
57+05 Do228-212NG MFG3 German Marine
G-ONAA//99+18 OV-10B private ex 99+18 Luftwaffe
FA116 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component tiger c/s
46+07 Tornado IDS(T) TLG33 Luftwaffe
FA104 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component 349sm badge
1303 MiG-29UBS 1 BL Slovak Air Force tiger c/s
ET-199 F-16BM Esk 730 Royal Danish Air Force
ZK027/R Hawk T2 4FTS Royal Air Force
ZK025/P Hawk T2 4FTS Royal Air Force
OO-NEW Sonaca 200 private
D-EOHB Stemme S15-1 private
71 Blue Su-27UBM1 831 BrTA Ukraine Air Force
58 Blue Su-27P1M 831 BrTA Ukraine Air Force
G-KAXF/N-294 Hunter F6A DHHA
flying / other side
CE03 ERJ-145LR 21sm/15 wing Belgian Air Component
FA70 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA101 F-16AM 2 wing Belgian Air Component Dark Falcon c/s
FA103 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA106 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
FA134 F-16AM 10 wing Belgian Air Component
H21 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H44 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
H45 A109BA 1 wing Belgian Air Component
RN04 NH90 NFH 40sm/15 wing Belgian Air Component
ST22 SF260MD 1 wing Belgian Air Component Red Devils c/s
ST31 SF260MD 1 wing Belgian Air Component Red Devils c/s
ST34 SF260MD 1 wing Belgian Air Component Red Devils c/s
ST35 SF260MD 1 wing Belgian Air Component Red Devils c/s
9234 JAS-39C 211tl Czech Air Force spec. c/s
E-607 F-16AM Esk 730 Royal Danish Air Force
T-409 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
T-410 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
T-414 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
T-430 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
T-432 T-17 FLSK Royal Danish Air Force
160/62-IS CN235-200 ET01.064 French Air Force
E44/1/FUHRE Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E98/2/FTEMF Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E119/3/FUGFE Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E152/4//FUHRT Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E146/5/FUHRR Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E139/6/FUGFC Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E113/7/FTETD Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E45/8/FTETF Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E68/9/FTEMO Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
E127/0/FUGFK Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 French Air Force Pat.deFrance
529 F-16C 343Mira Hellenic Air Force Zeus demo
ZK317/317 Typhoon FGR4 29OCUsq Royal Air Force
ZK318 Typhoon FGR4 29OCUsq Royal Air Force 100yr RAF tail
1931 C-27J Slovak Air Force
C.15-39/15-26 EF-18A ALA 15 Spanish Air Force
C.15-30/15-17 EF-18A ALA 15 Spanish Air Force
J-5003/003 F/A-18C FlSt 11 Swiss Air Force
J-5013/013 F/A-18C FlSt 11 Swiss Air Force
C-FPSH Do228-202 Summit Air RAF Falcons
D-EXBE EA-330SC private
D-6081 Marganski S-1 Swift private
G-CIBM/4 RV-8 private Team Raven
G-CJSM/2 RV-8 private Team Raven
G-EGRV/3 RV-8 private Team Raven
G-MAXV/1 RV-4 private Team Raven
G-VFDS/5 RV-8 private Team Raven
N216DM/MT-5 CM170 private ex MT5, Belgian Air Force
OO-EBU/2 PA-28-161 private, “The Victors”
OO-VCU/3 PA-28-161 private, “The Victors”
OO-VMC/4 PA-28-161 private, “The Victors”
OO-VMX PA-28-161 private, “The Victors”
OO-SDJ EA330 private
OO-XVI/SL721/AU-J Spitfire F.XVIe private
PH-BEW PA-25-235 private
PH-KHV/G-29 Beech Expeditor 3NM KLuHF
PH-LSK/B-64 AT-16ND KLuHF
PH-IIB/B-118 AT-16ND KLuHF
Breitling display team and Royal Jordanian Falcons not noted by us.
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
This one should be G-EGRVfrank kramer wrote:Quick run down of the civil aircraft that flew from the north side:SWAT 11 wrote:Did someone knows the regis of the civilian aircrafts on the otherside?
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G-EGRF/3
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
correct. Typo.
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
Thanks, this is correct I think. I was in the maintenance hanger around 1700 when I saw a F-16 fly but was to far to see which one.frank kramer wrote:No, that is not correct.
-Danish F-16 did NOT fly on friday (at least not before 17.45)
-Flanker DID fly on friday (after 1700)
-as did the Greek F-16 (also late afternoon, but NOT in the morning)
-Dark Falcon did a few moves upon arriving on friday morning, but no full demo
-it did a full demo in the afternoon
I can add the times from my pictures tonight if this needs further clarification
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
Concerning the F-16A at the KB Air Museum: it is FA-38 with the tail of FA-25. A bit confusing, but you could see it up close in 2017 and the special markings of FA-25 are only visible on the tail. The rest of the scheme (the Spitfire on top of the wings and fuselage, the registration FA-25 on the ventral fins and the silhouettes near the intake) are not there. For pictures see Eurodemobbed. Tailswap executed in 2014 apparently.
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
OK thanks for the explanation.frank kramer wrote:Concerning the F-16A at the KB Air Museum: it is FA-38 with the tail of FA-25. A bit confusing, but you could see it up close in 2017 and the special markings of FA-25 are only visible on the tail. The rest of the scheme (the Spitfire on top of the wings and fuselage, the registration FA-25 on the ventral fins and the silhouettes near the intake) are not there. For pictures see Eurodemobbed.
This one is now clear FA38 it should be...
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
Thanks Arno for the complete list.
You did note the PdeFrance Alpha-Jets as well (which I did need)
Gr.
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You did note the PdeFrance Alpha-Jets as well (which I did need)
Gr.
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
The Zeus demo took place just after the Flanker had landed. Zeus was waiting at the ORP while the Flanker demo took place.frank kramer wrote:No, that is not correct.
-Danish F-16 did NOT fly on friday (at least not before 17.45)
-Flanker DID fly on friday (after 1700)
-as did the Greek F-16 (also late afternoon, but NOT in the morning)
-Dark Falcon did a few moves upon arriving on friday morning, but no full demo
-it did a full demo in the afternoon
I can add the times from my pictures tonight if this needs further clarification
Regards, Paul
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
for completeness sake: Royal Jordanian Falcons were RJF-01, 02, 03, 04,SWAT 11 wrote:Our log from Sunday!
Kleine Brogel – Belgian Air Days – Sunday 09-09-2018
Breitling display team and Royal Jordanian Falcons not noted by us.
Breitlings were:
ES-TLF/5
ES-YLF/6
ES-YLI/2
ES-YLN/1
ES-YLR/4
ES-YLX/3
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Re: Kleine Brogel 8, 9 September - Belgian Air Force Days
All were 100% read.Carlos Geurts wrote:Thanks Arno for the complete list.
You did note the PdeFrance Alpha-Jets as well (which I did need)
Gr.
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