Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
Hello Alex,
First of all, thank you very much for all your logs from Donauworth.
Very interesting !!
Also the pictures in the Photo forum helps.
I think your camouflaged EC-145 is the additional EC-145 for Albania on order.
The serial is probably (not confirmed but guessed!!) FA-636 as FA-635 is the other EC-145 of Albania.
The camouflage are the same colours as their AS532 Cougars...
First of all, thank you very much for all your logs from Donauworth.
Very interesting !!
Also the pictures in the Photo forum helps.
I think your camouflaged EC-145 is the additional EC-145 for Albania on order.
The serial is probably (not confirmed but guessed!!) FA-636 as FA-635 is the other EC-145 of Albania.
The camouflage are the same colours as their AS532 Cougars...
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
Many thanks for this info! I think that is the missing piece of the puzzle...cis wrote:Hello Alex,
First of all, thank you very much for all your logs from Donauworth.
Very interesting !!
Also the pictures in the Photo forum helps.
I think your camouflaged EC-145 is the additional EC-145 for Albania on order.
The serial is probably (not confirmed but guessed!!) FA-636 as FA-635 is the other EC-145 of Albania.
The camouflage are the same colours as their AS532 Cougars...
Albania is indeed very likely if you look at the camo and serial.
Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
Spottervito,
When seen in June the c/n was not known at that time. It is also not painted on the outside. Can you explain how the c/n 9716 was conformed ??"[D-HADF] EC.145, jungle camo, first and last digit from serial just visible under sticker reg F-...6 or P-...6, c/n confirmed as 9716. Testflight as "RDF 25"
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
I send you a PM and explain it to you.cis wrote:Spottervito,
When seen in June the c/n was not known at that time. It is also not painted on the outside. Can you explain how the c/n 9716 was conformed ??"[D-HADF] EC.145, jungle camo, first and last digit from serial just visible under sticker reg F-...6 or P-...6, c/n confirmed as 9716. Testflight as "RDF 25"
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
LOG Tuesday 28.07.15 10.00 - 16.00 hrs
74+26 Tiger UHT Heer, engine test
74+30 Tiger UHT Heer, inside Tiger maintenance hangar
74+48 Tiger UHT Heer, testflight as "RDF6"
74+49 Tiger UHT Heer, engine test
84+32 CH-53G HSG64, engine test
84+54 CH-53G HSG64, inside hangar
84+71 CH-53G HSG64, inside hangar
85+03 CH-53G HSG64, inside hangar
[98+40] NH.90NFH primer, towed into hangar F8 (operator unknown)
[D-HADS] EC.145T2 Airbus Hel. (primer), testflight as "RDF10", c/n 20007 painted on fuselage
D-HADX EC.145T2 Airbus Hel., testflight as "RDF6"
[D-HBTA] H145M full Lw c/s, will become 76+03, which is overtaped
[D-HBTJ] H145 primer, inside hangar, c/n 20047 painted on fuselage
[D-HCBO] H135 primer, engine test, c/n 1181 painted on fuselage
[D-HCBQ] H145M full Lw c/s with serial 76+02, testflight as "RDF14", c/n 20019 confirmed
[D-HCBR] H145 all silver c/s "Mercedes-Benz VIP style", future reg. PK-BMS painted on underside, testflight as "RDF25". c/n 20037 confirmed
[D-HCBV] H145 full "Polizei", will become D-HBWU with Baden Württemberg Police in the future (c/n 20041)
D-HTMF EC.135T3 HTM, midfield crossing as "D-HTMF"
regards,
Alex and Richard
74+26 Tiger UHT Heer, engine test
74+30 Tiger UHT Heer, inside Tiger maintenance hangar
74+48 Tiger UHT Heer, testflight as "RDF6"
74+49 Tiger UHT Heer, engine test
84+32 CH-53G HSG64, engine test
84+54 CH-53G HSG64, inside hangar
84+71 CH-53G HSG64, inside hangar
85+03 CH-53G HSG64, inside hangar
[98+40] NH.90NFH primer, towed into hangar F8 (operator unknown)
[D-HADS] EC.145T2 Airbus Hel. (primer), testflight as "RDF10", c/n 20007 painted on fuselage
D-HADX EC.145T2 Airbus Hel., testflight as "RDF6"
[D-HBTA] H145M full Lw c/s, will become 76+03, which is overtaped
[D-HBTJ] H145 primer, inside hangar, c/n 20047 painted on fuselage
[D-HCBO] H135 primer, engine test, c/n 1181 painted on fuselage
[D-HCBQ] H145M full Lw c/s with serial 76+02, testflight as "RDF14", c/n 20019 confirmed
[D-HCBR] H145 all silver c/s "Mercedes-Benz VIP style", future reg. PK-BMS painted on underside, testflight as "RDF25". c/n 20037 confirmed
[D-HCBV] H145 full "Polizei", will become D-HBWU with Baden Württemberg Police in the future (c/n 20041)
D-HTMF EC.135T3 HTM, midfield crossing as "D-HTMF"
regards,
Alex and Richard
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
could a an NFH version for the Swedish Air Force.[98+40] NH.90NFH primer, towed into hangar F8 (operator unknown)
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
yes, should be the first one for Swedish Navy with factory code BSWN01 - but all that needs to be confirmed.nils wrote:could a an NFH version for the Swedish Air Force.[98+40] NH.90NFH primer, towed into hangar F8 (operator unknown)
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
LOG Tuesday 01.09. 10.00 - 14.00 hrs
74+26 Tiger UHT Heer. Engine test
74+30 Tiger UHT Heer. Inside Tiger maintenance hangar
74+49 Tiger UHT Heer. Engine test
78+31 NH.90TTH Heer. Towed into hangar F8
79+09 NH.90TTH Lw. Testflight as "RDF3"
84+51 CH-53G HSG64 inside hangar
85+03 CH-53G HSG64 inside hangar
[D-HADH] EC145 Albanian AF f/c (c/n ? but future serial F(A-63)7 readable under sticker. Testflight.
[D-HADI] H145M Lw (still in primer with c/n 20016). Testflight as "RDF2"
[D-HADM] exact type not confirmed. Only tail noted inside hangar.
[D-HADN] exact type not confirmed. Only tail noted inside hangar.
[D-HADO] H145 Svensk Luftambulanse f/c. On the ramp (c/n ?)
[D-HADS] EC.145T2 primer with c/n 20007. On the ramp.
D-HADW EC.145T2 (H145) Airbus Helicopter demo a/c. Engine Test
[D-HBTS) H145 Polizei Baden-Württemberg f/c. Engine test (c/n 20048 confirmed. Will become D-HBWV when delivered. Last digit "V" readable under sticker)
[D-HCBF] H135 Polizei inside hangar (c/n 1191, will become D-HPNF when delivered)
D-HCBM EC.135T3 (H135) Airbus Helicopter demo a/c. Flew as "RDF14"
[D-HCBQ] H145M Lw inside hangar (c/n 20019, will become 76+02)
[D-HCBV] H145 Polizei Baden-Württemberg f/c. inside hangar (c/n 20041, will become D-HBWU when delivered)
[D-HECG] EC135 Royal Australian Navy f/c. On the ramp. (c/n 1179 confirmed. Future serial N52-001 clearly visible. Has a unit badge with a snake applied on the tail compared to last sighting in February)
[D-HECX] H135 all white c/s. on the ramp for demonstration (c/n ?)
Regards, Alex
74+26 Tiger UHT Heer. Engine test
74+30 Tiger UHT Heer. Inside Tiger maintenance hangar
74+49 Tiger UHT Heer. Engine test
78+31 NH.90TTH Heer. Towed into hangar F8
79+09 NH.90TTH Lw. Testflight as "RDF3"
84+51 CH-53G HSG64 inside hangar
85+03 CH-53G HSG64 inside hangar
[D-HADH] EC145 Albanian AF f/c (c/n ? but future serial F(A-63)7 readable under sticker. Testflight.
[D-HADI] H145M Lw (still in primer with c/n 20016). Testflight as "RDF2"
[D-HADM] exact type not confirmed. Only tail noted inside hangar.
[D-HADN] exact type not confirmed. Only tail noted inside hangar.
[D-HADO] H145 Svensk Luftambulanse f/c. On the ramp (c/n ?)
[D-HADS] EC.145T2 primer with c/n 20007. On the ramp.
D-HADW EC.145T2 (H145) Airbus Helicopter demo a/c. Engine Test
[D-HBTS) H145 Polizei Baden-Württemberg f/c. Engine test (c/n 20048 confirmed. Will become D-HBWV when delivered. Last digit "V" readable under sticker)
[D-HCBF] H135 Polizei inside hangar (c/n 1191, will become D-HPNF when delivered)
D-HCBM EC.135T3 (H135) Airbus Helicopter demo a/c. Flew as "RDF14"
[D-HCBQ] H145M Lw inside hangar (c/n 20019, will become 76+02)
[D-HCBV] H145 Polizei Baden-Württemberg f/c. inside hangar (c/n 20041, will become D-HBWU when delivered)
[D-HECG] EC135 Royal Australian Navy f/c. On the ramp. (c/n 1179 confirmed. Future serial N52-001 clearly visible. Has a unit badge with a snake applied on the tail compared to last sighting in February)
[D-HECX] H135 all white c/s. on the ramp for demonstration (c/n ?)
Regards, Alex
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
LOG Tuesday 15.09. 10.00-14.15 hrs
74+29 Tiger UHT Heer engine test ("Dixi 07")
78+30 NH.90TTH Heer, testflight as "Dixi 08"
78+32 NH.90TTH Heer, engine test
79+10 NH.90TTH Lw (not complete, towed from production line to hangar F8)
[D-HADI] H145M for Lw (c/n 20016, will be 76+01 but still in primer); testflight
[D-HADJ] H145 ADAC f/c (c/n 20043 confirmed, will be D-HYAF which is visible under sticker); testflight as "RDF 25"
[D-HADP] H145M Lw f/c (c/n 20051 confirmed, most probably will become 76+04 but not confirmed as serial is completely overtaped); several engine tests
[D-HBTS] H145 Polizei Baden-Württemberg f/c (c/n 20048, will become D-HBWV), testflight as "RDF 11"
[D-HADS] EC.145T2 primer (c/n 20007, flying in primer from 2013 until now)
[D-HCBO] H135 primer (c/n 1181, noted in primer from Jun until Sep 2015), testflight as "RDF 5"
[D-HCBQ] H145M Lw f/c (c/n 20019, will be 76+02), towed into hangar C9
[D-HECM] EC.135 Airbus Hel. testbed with nose-probe (c/n 0886); testflight as "RDF 6"
[D-HTSA] H135 primer (c/n ?); parked in remote area of the ramp for electric tests)
plus one unidentified red/white H145 in the hangar in an unknown colourscheme (this one is for the next visit...)
Regards, Alex
74+29 Tiger UHT Heer engine test ("Dixi 07")
78+30 NH.90TTH Heer, testflight as "Dixi 08"
78+32 NH.90TTH Heer, engine test
79+10 NH.90TTH Lw (not complete, towed from production line to hangar F8)
[D-HADI] H145M for Lw (c/n 20016, will be 76+01 but still in primer); testflight
[D-HADJ] H145 ADAC f/c (c/n 20043 confirmed, will be D-HYAF which is visible under sticker); testflight as "RDF 25"
[D-HADP] H145M Lw f/c (c/n 20051 confirmed, most probably will become 76+04 but not confirmed as serial is completely overtaped); several engine tests
[D-HBTS] H145 Polizei Baden-Württemberg f/c (c/n 20048, will become D-HBWV), testflight as "RDF 11"
[D-HADS] EC.145T2 primer (c/n 20007, flying in primer from 2013 until now)
[D-HCBO] H135 primer (c/n 1181, noted in primer from Jun until Sep 2015), testflight as "RDF 5"
[D-HCBQ] H145M Lw f/c (c/n 20019, will be 76+02), towed into hangar C9
[D-HECM] EC.135 Airbus Hel. testbed with nose-probe (c/n 0886); testflight as "RDF 6"
[D-HTSA] H135 primer (c/n ?); parked in remote area of the ramp for electric tests)
plus one unidentified red/white H145 in the hangar in an unknown colourscheme (this one is for the next visit...)
Regards, Alex
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
[98+40] NH.90NFH primer, towed into hangar F8 (operator unknown)
This is indeed a Swedish one, but not the first one. It was recently seen in full c/s and coded 56, so the second one for the Swedish navy. It was in the NH90 hangar, in the bay on the far left hand side. Behind it was another Swedish NH90 in full navy c/s, but no serial or code was visible. Its building process was not as far complete as 56, so probably number 3 for the navy? Confirmation of this would be nice.yes, should be the first one for Swedish Navy with factory code BSWN01 - but all that needs to be confirmed.
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
@Alex, nice LOG from 15 September. We were there also this day and have the following additions:
H-135 D-HCBX green/dark green metallic c/s
H-145 D-HADA yellow c/s (dep.)
H-145 D-HADN silver c/s T-2 model
Inside hangar F8
NH-90TTH [78+30] TGEA30 read on paper
NH-90TTH [78+31] TGEA31 read on paper
NH-90TTH 78+32 TGEA0032 read on tail
NH-90TTH 79+09
NH-90TTH [79+10] TGEE10 read on paper
HKP-14B BSWN02 +1 (read on paper) Swedish Navy
Tiger UHT 74+50 (UHT50 read on paper). Was towed outside in the morning and departed.
Tiger UHT 74+51
Tiger UHT 74+52 (UHT52 read on paper)
Tiger UHT [74+53] (UHT53 read on paper)
Tiger UHT [74+54] (UHT54 read on paper)
CH-53 Hangar
CH-53GA 84+24
CH-53G 84+54 (c/n V65-052) was outside in the morning
CH-53G 85+03
Tiger UHT 74+30
Hangar far left
Tiger UHT 74+26
EC-645T-2 76+02/D-HCBQ came in the morning out of this hangar. There were also 2 other Tigers (maybe 74+29 was one of them), a NH-90 and a primer H-145 in this hangar.
By the way, the 76+02 was marked as EC-645T-2, the D-HADP was marked as H-145M.
Regards,
Michiel
H-135 D-HCBX green/dark green metallic c/s
H-145 D-HADA yellow c/s (dep.)
H-145 D-HADN silver c/s T-2 model
Inside hangar F8
NH-90TTH [78+30] TGEA30 read on paper
NH-90TTH [78+31] TGEA31 read on paper
NH-90TTH 78+32 TGEA0032 read on tail
NH-90TTH 79+09
NH-90TTH [79+10] TGEE10 read on paper
HKP-14B BSWN02 +1 (read on paper) Swedish Navy
Tiger UHT 74+50 (UHT50 read on paper). Was towed outside in the morning and departed.
Tiger UHT 74+51
Tiger UHT 74+52 (UHT52 read on paper)
Tiger UHT [74+53] (UHT53 read on paper)
Tiger UHT [74+54] (UHT54 read on paper)
CH-53 Hangar
CH-53GA 84+24
CH-53G 84+54 (c/n V65-052) was outside in the morning
CH-53G 85+03
Tiger UHT 74+30
Hangar far left
Tiger UHT 74+26
EC-645T-2 76+02/D-HCBQ came in the morning out of this hangar. There were also 2 other Tigers (maybe 74+29 was one of them), a NH-90 and a primer H-145 in this hangar.
By the way, the 76+02 was marked as EC-645T-2, the D-HADP was marked as H-145M.
Regards,
Michiel
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
LOG Donauwoerth 29.09.2015 13.30 - 15.45 hrs
Thanks to Michiel and Patrick for the updates and additions! Fortunately the Swedish Hkp.14 has been pulled out of the hangar yesterday so I can provide the missing pieces of the puzzle...
On with the log:
78+31 NH.90TTH Heer testflight as "RDF10"
79+10 NH.90TTH Lw incomplete, in and out of hangar F8
84+64 CH-53GS HSG64 inside hangar
84+88 CH-53G HSG64 departed as "GAF831" to Laupheim after completion of maintenance
85+03 CH-53G HSG64
89+63 Sea King Mk.48 MFG3 arrived as "GNY4850"
[98+40] NH.90NFH/Hkp.14F Swedish Navy f/c on the ramp. future serial 146056/56 taped over but clearly readable. c/n 1197 also painted small on the tail
[98+50] NH.90TTH testflight as "Dixi 03"
??? NH.90NFH Swedish Navy f/c in hangar behind the other one
[D-HADC] H145 DRF f/c c/n 20056, incomplete inside hangar, future reg. D-HDSI already painted on
[D-HADP] H145 ?, white with red stripes c/n ?, engine test
[D-HADW] EC.145T2 Airbus Hel. demo a/c Local Flight as "RDF15"
[D-HCBC] H135 Airbus Hel./primer c/n 1195, still in primer since at least July, testflight as RDF25
D-HCBM EC.135T3 Airbus Hel demo a/c noted inside hangar
[D-HECR] H135 ? tail visible inside hangar
[D-HECX] H135 all white c/n ?, engine test
Maybe anybody is able to put light on the exact type of the swedish NH.90. As far as I know serials with 141... are Hkp.14A, 142... Hkp.14B and 144... are Hkp.14D. But what Version are serials with 146... (I even didn`t know that this serial range will also be used???)
I hope somebody knows a bit more than me... Honestly I am a bit confused now.
Cheers, Alex
Thanks to Michiel and Patrick for the updates and additions! Fortunately the Swedish Hkp.14 has been pulled out of the hangar yesterday so I can provide the missing pieces of the puzzle...
On with the log:
78+31 NH.90TTH Heer testflight as "RDF10"
79+10 NH.90TTH Lw incomplete, in and out of hangar F8
84+64 CH-53GS HSG64 inside hangar
84+88 CH-53G HSG64 departed as "GAF831" to Laupheim after completion of maintenance
85+03 CH-53G HSG64
89+63 Sea King Mk.48 MFG3 arrived as "GNY4850"
[98+40] NH.90NFH/Hkp.14F Swedish Navy f/c on the ramp. future serial 146056/56 taped over but clearly readable. c/n 1197 also painted small on the tail
[98+50] NH.90TTH testflight as "Dixi 03"
??? NH.90NFH Swedish Navy f/c in hangar behind the other one
[D-HADC] H145 DRF f/c c/n 20056, incomplete inside hangar, future reg. D-HDSI already painted on
[D-HADP] H145 ?, white with red stripes c/n ?, engine test
[D-HADW] EC.145T2 Airbus Hel. demo a/c Local Flight as "RDF15"
[D-HCBC] H135 Airbus Hel./primer c/n 1195, still in primer since at least July, testflight as RDF25
D-HCBM EC.135T3 Airbus Hel demo a/c noted inside hangar
[D-HECR] H135 ? tail visible inside hangar
[D-HECX] H135 all white c/n ?, engine test
Maybe anybody is able to put light on the exact type of the swedish NH.90. As far as I know serials with 141... are Hkp.14A, 142... Hkp.14B and 144... are Hkp.14D. But what Version are serials with 146... (I even didn`t know that this serial range will also be used???)
I hope somebody knows a bit more than me... Honestly I am a bit confused now.
Cheers, Alex
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
@Alex. see Scramble 436 page 74 for the complete answer on the 146xx registrations but 145xx is a Hkp-14E and 146xx is a Hkp-14F.
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
84+88 makes an low apr. at ETSA on its way to Manching
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Re: Donauwoerth/Airbus Helicopters (EDMQ) 2015 CIV+MIL
Vermeer wrote:@Alex. see Scramble 436 page 74 for the complete answer on the 146xx registrations but 145xx is a Hkp-14E and 146xx is a Hkp-14F.
Michiel
Thanks Michiel, could have read this by myself indeed...