14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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They leave at the end of the day, usually 6/7PM.
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Does anybody know which participating aircraft might possibly NOT operate from their home bases?
I am thinking of the helicopteres (operating out of Creil again???) and of the Mirage F.1s (which are expected at Chateaudun after the flypast).
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Today appears to be rehearsal day (between 12.30z and 14.00z):

A3890/14 NOTAMN
Q) LFFF/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4901N00233E005
A) LFPG B) 1407091230 C) 1407091400
E) DUE TO 2014 BASTILLE DAY FLYPAST REHEARSAL:
NO DEPARTURES OR ARRIVALS FOR PARIS ROISSY CDG AERODROME BETWEEN 1230 AND 1400.
INBOUND FLIGHTS ARE MAINTAINED BY ATC OUTSIDE LOW ALTITUDES AREAS AFFECTED BY THE FLYPAST.
ACCORDING TO ATFCM MEASURES, THESE FLIGHTS CAN BE MAINTAINED WITHIN HOLDING SECTORS TIL 30 MINUTES. PLAN FUELING LOAD ACCORDINGLY.
SEE AIP SUP 117/14
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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That's correct:
http://www.garnison-paris.terre.defense ... aerien.htm
For most formations only the leader will take part.
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Anybody knows what the minimum meteorological conditions are?
At the moment it's raining with low clouds...
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Niek wrote:Anybody knows what the minimum meteorological conditions are?
At the moment it's raining with low clouds...

Not looking too bad on here,


http://www.wunderground.com/weather-for ... 00.1.07057
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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About the same here in La Defense. But too wet to go outside. No pictures of the rehearsal this year :-)
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Gerard wrote:Today appears to be rehearsal day (between 12.30z and 14.00z):

A3890/14 NOTAMN
Q) LFFF/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4901N00233E005
A) LFPG B) 1407091230 C) 1407091400
E) DUE TO 2014 BASTILLE DAY FLYPAST REHEARSAL:
NO DEPARTURES OR ARRIVALS FOR PARIS ROISSY CDG AERODROME BETWEEN 1230 AND 1400.
INBOUND FLIGHTS ARE MAINTAINED BY ATC OUTSIDE LOW ALTITUDES AREAS AFFECTED BY THE FLYPAST.
ACCORDING TO ATFCM MEASURES, THESE FLIGHTS CAN BE MAINTAINED WITHIN HOLDING SECTORS TIL 30 MINUTES. PLAN FUELING LOAD ACCORDINGLY.
SEE AIP SUP 117/14
Almost complete fly-past was rehearsed 24 June at Chateaudun.

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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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And today above the Champs Elysees as well.
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Below is a list from where the various Armée de l'Air airplanes start. The list did not include the army and navy planes. During the rehearsals all helos (except Securité Civile) flew from Villacoublay, so it's safe to say that this is the case again on Monday.

Alphajet de la Patrouille de France : aérodrome Le Bourget
Mirage F1 : base aérienne de Châteaudun
Rafale : base aérienne d’Évreux
Boeing C-135 : base aérienne d’Istres
Mirage 2000N : base aérienne d’Evreux
Mirage 2000D : base aérienne d’Évreux
E-3F SDCA : base aérienne d’Abord
Mirage 2000-5 : base aérienne d’Évreux
Mirage 2000 RDI : base aérienne d’Évreux
Alphajet français et belge de l’ETO : base aérienne d’Évreux
A400M : base aérienne d’Orléans
Hercules C-130 : base aérienne d’Orléans
Transall C-160 : base aérienne d’Évreux
Casa CN 235 : base aérienne d’Évreux

Fennec : base aérienne de Villacoublay
Caracal : base aérienne de Villacoublay
Super Puma : base aérienne de Villacoublay
Puma : base aérienne de Villacoublay
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Yes, this is coinciding with final flight of the Mirage F1 in operational French service. This is the reason why their operating base is Chateaudun; they are put in storage there immediately after the flypast. (So Nancy wasn't their last public appearance after all..)

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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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All relevant information, including formations, timings etc can be found at http://www.air-actualites.com/DP_14juil ... et2014.pdf
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Bruno wrote:
Is there a chance to see the flyby from the Gare de l’Est when I am late?
I don't think so...

Maybe this website will help you to travel by Metro from Gare de l'Est to Invalides
http://www.ratp.fr/itineraires/fr/ratp/ ... lus_rapide
Thank you! :-)
Niek wrote:I've made a quick map of the Defilé, maybe this helps:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Zwyk ... sp=sharing

The long line is the route of the defilé, it changes to the fly-out route on the dotted part (height of the planes increases)
I marked the spot at les Invalides with a red circle, where the line of sight is marked in yellow. This means you have no buildings obstructing your view.
The blue square is the area where the choppers will land after the flypast.
The red square in the upper righthand corner is the Gare de l'Est. As you see, the line of sight is much longer (obstructions) and you face towards the sun.
According to http://www.ratp.fr, a metro journey would take you 28 minutes (I did not calculate the queue for the ticket machine).

So, it's up to you, but it's rather tricky....
Wow! Great work! Thanks a lot! :-) At the time I am also looking for an alternate place to get to, faster than to the invalides...
Nilson wrote:@USAFE.

Not sure but maybe to go quickly to the Sacre Coeur. From there you have a good view over Paris as far as I can remeber.

Good luck.
I will check this option. Anyone with experience in Taxis? Could also try to go by taxi from Est to Invalides...

Trains are booked. Arrival 09:50h at Gare de l'Est...
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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Taxis could be a challenge as well, since many roads are closed. I would take the Metro. The flying part starts at 10.30 and the weather looks ok for the morning. Hope to see you there.

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Re: 14 July 2014 Bastille Day Paris

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Niek wrote:Taxis could be a challenge as well, since many roads are closed. I would take the Metro. The flying part starts at 10.30 and the weather looks ok for the morning. Hope to see you there.
Any plans after the flyby? I am in town until 19.00l...
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