Creil - MIL 2013

[The DJ]

Six TB30s were visible on the 13th around 1700hrs, 5 Grey and one in the old Cartouche Doree c/s. Did anyone managed to get these? Also which 2000C sat outside the QRA shelters, I've seen two mentioned.

[leonard van T]

Six TB30s were visible on the 13th around 1700hrs, 5 Grey and one in the old Cartouche Doree c/s. Did anyone managed to get these? Also which 2000C sat outside the QRA shelters, I've seen two mentioned.

at 2100hrs no sign of TB-30,2 for the Mirage see page 1

Leonard

[Sleegertje]

We saw the TB-30's land:
133 315-YX
103 315-XT
Code 2
82 315-WY
.6 (Could only be 96 315-XM)
84 315-XA

The Mirage 2000-5F was 56 116-EG

Cheers Rene

[Richard de Florennes]

Regarding the helicopter flypast, out of 20 ALAT (+ German?) helicopters plus the three Navy/National Marine ones departing Creil at 10:55 hrs (14 July), the following could be identified (codes only) when landing on Runway 07 around one hour later:

in order of landing (all 100% video proof, except the two first tigers)

Tigre (ALAT) - BIM ?
Tigre (ALAT) - unidentified

Gazelle - no code?
Gazelle - GCG

Tigre - BIJ
Gazelle - GCE
Tigre - BII
Gazelle - GCM

Puma - DBN (black code)
Puma - DAS (white code)
Puma - DBP (black code - three white stripes under fuselage)

Gazelle - GAW
Tigre - BHX
Cougar (not Puma!!!) - CGM (black code)


Puma "DBL" and Gazelle "GAU performed a very short local mission only from/to Creil during the time of the flypast.

Not returning after the flypast but seen departing where:

Gazelle - GNC
Puma - DDT
NH90 - EAE
Tigre - BHV
Tigre - BJB
NH90 7

more aircraft captured on video:
Mirage 2000-5F 116-EH (local mission, from QRA area)
Mirage 2000-5F 116-EY (local mission, from QRA area)

TB.30 103/315-XT (local mission, departure in the afternoon)
TB.30 code 2 (local mission, departure in the afternoon)
TB.30 .../315-XA (two local missions, departure in the afternoon)

I will publish a full log in the course of this evening ...

[Wrecks]

Anyone been at Creil today on the 14th?
Cheers Per

See http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?p=651137#p651137

[perrie]

Hi W&R,

Thanks, but this is the Evreux log and I meant Creil-Senlis on the 14th. Anyone for the CN235 with its tail sticking out of the hangar?
Thought there were 14 visible but maybe I counted some double because I looked from different places to the base. Will check the pics later.

Your log is very handy to confirm the a/c over Paris though.

Thanks, Per

[Richard de Florennes]

CREIL SUNDAY 2013-07-14 RW07/RW25
Weather: blue sky/few clouds, hazy, becmg. clear, light wind, very warm

Based aircraft (ET01.062, ET03.063):
CN.235-200 ET01.061 072/62-IF T09:42 L11:15#3
CN.235-300 ET03.061 198/62-HF T09:42 L11:16#3
CN.235-300 ET03.061 199/62-HG T09:42 L11:17#3

Detached aircraft (EC01.002, EPAA00.315):
Mirage 2000-5F EC01.002 52/116-EH T09:45 L11:22+a1
Mirage 2000-5F EC01.002 42/116-EY T11:05 L12:43+a0

TB.30 EPAA00.315 84/315-XA T08:05 L10:05
TB.30 EPAA00.315 96/315-XM ? T08:53 L10:33
TB.30 EPAA00.315 103/315-XT T09:27 L11:14+
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../(315-)XS’2’ spec c/s T10:17 L12:16+
TB.30 EPAA00.315 133/315-YX T11:30 L12:58+
TB.30 EPAA00.315 82/315-WY T11:50 L13:01

Visiting aircraft (all for national holiday flypast over Paris):
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) ..../XXX L12:10
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) ..../(BIM) L12:10

SA.342M (5 RHC) (....)/XXX L12:10
SA.342M (5 RHC) (2168)/GCG L12:10

Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2042)/BIJ L12:11
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2041)/BII L12:11
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2031)/BHX L12:13

SA.342M (5 RHC) (4162)/GCE L12:11
SA.342M (1 RHC) (4186)/GCM L12:11
SA.330B (1 RHC) (1632)/DBN L12:12
SA.330B (3 RHC) (1176)/DAS L12:12
SA.330B (5 RHC) (1654)/DBP L12:12
SA.330B (3 RHC) (1519)/DBL L11:53

SA.342M (5 RHC) (3957)/GAU L11:47
SA.342M (5 RHC) (3996)/GAW L12:13

AS.532UL (5 RHC) (2301)/CGM L12:13

AS.565SA 36F 362 L12:14


to be continued ...

[perrie]

Hi Richard de Florennes,

Thanks for your log, that was extremely helpful, I now know the 2 TB30s that landed around 12.00h.
Just put some pics on my computer, I photographed a formation of 3 heli's departing Creil-Senlis on the 14th at 13.06h:

They are:
Tigre coded BIM
Tiger 74+06
A camouflaged NH90TTH (might be EAE?????)

Richard, did you see a second NH90TTH on the base? Was the EAC here?

There were 2 old Mirage 3s on the base near the fence, one upside down. Couldn't read it off, is this Mirage 3R 322/TB ??The other one is Mirage 3E 565 with a very faded code with a 3 in it.

At the aeroclub is Hurel Dubois F-BICV, ex Institut Geographique National.
Parked outside on the base at the Institut Geographique National is F-GALN, a Beech 200T.

At the gate a Super Mystere can be seen which should be the 139.

Thanks everyone for sharing all the info!

Per

[perrie]

Richard I now see in your post a few before this one that NH90s EAE and 7 departed in the morning but did not return after the flypast. So which NH90 left at 13.06h with a French and a german Tigre/Tiger: the EAC?

Per

[Bennie]

While approaching Paris/de Gaulle on the 15th, 8 CN235 could be seen on the flightline at Creil.

[Richard de Florennes]

Richard I now see in your post a few before this one that NH90s EAE and 7 departed in the morning but did not return after the flypast. So which NH90 left at 13.06h with a French and a german Tigre/Tiger: the EAC?

Per

Sorry, no idea, but as Tiger 74+06 took place in the flypast over Paris and did not return (at least I did not see it returning), how could 74+06 depart Creil at 13:03 (according to my clock) one more time? Aand are you sure about aicraft types and times regarding this formation?

[perrie]

I think they made a fuelstop, I checked my camera and settings date/time are correct. They left at 13.06 hours from Creil, I was standing in the field and they passed me and I photographed them.
The sun was on the wrong side but I can read 74+06 very clearly! What time did you leave Creil?

Per

[perrie]

Here's a picture from the German Tiger departing Creil, sorry about the lightconditions.
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Per

[perrie]

And a bit closer:

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[Richard de Florennes]

this is my most comprehensive log of the day so far.

CREIL SUNDAY 2013-07-14 RW07/RW25
Weather: blue sky/few clouds, hazy, becmg. clear, light wind, very warm

Based aircraft (ET01.062, ET03.063):
CN.235-200 ET01.061 072/62-IF T09:42 L11:15#3
CN.235-300 ET03.061 198/62-HF T09:42 L11:16#3
CN.235-300 ET03.061 199/62-HG T09:42 L11:17#3

Detached aircraft (EC01.002, EPAA00.315):
Mirage 2000-5F EC01.002 52/116-EH T09:45 L11:22+a1
Mirage 2000-5F EC01.002 42/116-EY T11:05 L12:43+a0

TB.30 EPAA00.315 84/315-XA T08:05 L10:05
TB.30 EPAA00.315 96/315-XM ? T08:53 L10:33
TB.30 EPAA00.315 103/315-XT T09:27 L11:14+
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../(315-)XS’2’ spec c/s T10:17 L12:16+
TB.30 EPAA00.315 133/315-YX T11:30 L12:58+
TB.30 EPAA00.315 82/315-WY T11:50 L13:01

Visiting aircraft (all for national holiday flypast over Paris):
Tiger UAT HFWS 74+06 T10:55 L12:10

SA.342M (5 RHC) (....)/XXX T10:55 L12:10
SA.342M (5 RHC) (2168)/GCG T10:55 L12:10

Tigre HAP (5 RHC) ..../(BIM) T10:55 L12:10
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2042)/BIJ T10:55 L12:11
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2041)/BII T10:55 L12:11
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2031)/BHX T10:55 L12:13

SA.342M (5 RHC) (4162)/GCE T10:55 L12:11
SA.342M (1 RHC) (4186)/GCM T10:55 L12:11
SA.330B (1 RHC) (1632)/DBN T10:55 L12:12
SA.330B (3 RHC) (1176)/DAS T10:55 L12:12
SA.330B (5 RHC) (1654)/DBP T10:55 L12:12
SA.330B (3 RHC) (1519)/DBL T11:25 L11:53

SA.342M (5 RHC) (3957)/GAU T11:26 L11:47
SA.342M (5 RHC) (3996)/GAW T10:55 L12:13

AS.532UL (5 RHC) (2301)/CGM T10:55 L12:13
AS.532UL (5 RHC) (2301)/CGW T10:55

NH.90TTH CFIA (1290)/EAE T10:55
NH.90TTH CFIA ..../EAC ? T13:03
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2029)/BHV T10:55
Tigre HAD (5 RHC) (6002)/BJB T10:55
SA.342M (5 RHC) (3549)/GNC T10:55
SA.342M (5 RHC) (3957)/GAU T12:27

SA.330B (3 RHC) (....)/DAN T10:55
SA.330B (3 RHC) (1519)/DBL T11:25

NH.90NFH ?F 7 T10:57
SA.365N 35F 91 T10:57
AS.565SA 36F 362 T10:57

Additional movements (departures):
Tigre/Tiger T11:39

Tiger UHT HFWS (74+06) T13:03
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) ..../BIM T13:03

SA.330B (3 RHC) (1176)/DAS T13:21
SA.330B (3 RHC) (1519)/DBL T14:07

Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2042)/BIJ T13:25
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2041)/BII T13:25
Tigre HAP (5 RHC) (2031)/BHX T13:25

SA.342M (5 RHC) (4162)/GCE T14:27
SA.342M (5 RHC) (2168)/GCG T14:27
SA.342M (5 RHC) (3996)/GAW T14:27

TB.30 EPAA00.315 84/315-XA T14:34
TB.30 EPAA00.315 96/315-XM ? T14:34

TB.30 EPAA00.315 103/315-XT T14:48
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../(315-)XS’2’ spec c/s T14:48
TB.30 EPAA00.315 133/315-YX T14:49
TB.30 EPAA00.315 82/315-WY T14:49