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It's been a while since I've been to Leeuwarden, but I'm going this friday. Which runway is most likely to be used? 06/24 or 09/27?
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- Mission times indeed around 900 and 1330 local time.
- Runway in use 06/24.
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nilsko wrote: - Runway in use 06/24.
Thanks. Is it worth a while to stand at 06(Marssum) during take-offs???
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Snipes wrote:
nilsko wrote: - Runway in use 06/24.
Thanks. Is it worth a while to stand at 06(Marssum) during take-offs???
If you've got enough mm's, it can be your worth wihle when they are banking...
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attila.szabo wrote:If you've got enough mm's, it can be your worth wihle when they are banking...
Got about 500mm ;)!
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Snipes wrote:
attila.szabo wrote:If you've got enough mm's, it can be your worth wihle when they are banking...
Got about 500mm ;)!
I used 350 to 400mm on a 1.5x crop body last Monday!

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Yeah, you probably need more than 300mm.. Tip: Don't be tempted to stand on the spottershill but pick a place along the accessroad towards the hill. Somewhere 1/4 along the road gives you a better spot to get the planes while they' slightly banking towards you. This doesn't work for all of them and is highly dependant on high they are once they reach the end of the field, but it gives you a slightly better chance in banking shots than when standing on the hill.

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Any suggestions for taxi shots of the Mirage F1's tomorrow from outside the base?
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I used about 300mm from the spottershill and that was fine. You can get them when they turn off the runway, but in my view there is a lot of clutter in your field of view which isn't good looking in the picture. They then drive behind the little 'glass house' at the runway. When they are past that you can shoot them without clutter, but only for a very short time as the will be behind the trees. The German Eufies take the second exit which is better in terms of clutter in the field of view.
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Ik zag vandaag tijdens de ochtendmissie dat alle kisten een straight-in approach maakten en dus niet overhead het veld en in de break gingen. Was dat alleen vandaag zo of maken ze al de hele week alleen straight-in approaches?
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The morning mission yesterday all arrived flying the righthand circuit.

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Making an overhead break, aka visual circuits is only possible with good weather/VFR conditions!
Otherwise you have to make an instrument approach, like an ILS.
Weather and dominance.

a. To indicate whether an instrument approach is mandatory or not, the system of 'Airfield
IFR/VFR‟ is used.

b. 'Airfield IFR' is used when the weather in the CTR does not permit aircraft to fly
visual circuits.The weather minima for VFR-circuits are 5 km visibility and 1500 ft
cloudbase. Cloudbase is defined as coverage of 3/8 or more. If conditions are below
these minima, aircraft can be cleared 'special VFR' (SVFR). The weather minima for
SVFR-circuits are 3 km visibility, clear of clouds and the cloudbase above 1200 ft.
SVFR-traffic, which is not in the overhead pattern, will be monitored by RAPCON North.
During night-flying, weather permitting, traffic in the CTR is allowed to fly VFR (see
Annex B 9.2.5.c). VFR-flights for RNLAF aircraft are in accordance with LVV D3.

c. In general, 'Airfield IFR/VFR' also indicates which traffic has priority in handling.

d. To prepare for a visual or an instrument approach pilots are to contact RAPCON North in
sufficient time to ascertain whether the airfield is IFR, SVFR or VFR. RAPCON North is
to keep AOCS NM ATC and Vlieland Range informed of the airfield status.

e. When the airfield status was VFR on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday,
IFRprocedures on Friday are mandatory. When the actual weather conditions should
indicate „Airfield VFR‟, the status 'Airfield Oscar‟ will be used and „O‟ will indicate the
airfield status in ATSAL. When the airfield status was IFR on one of the prementioned
days the normal system of IFR/ VFR will be used.
Today, on Friday, due to low cloud base of 1200 feet, the field was IFR and all aircraft had to make an ILS approach.
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