Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

ImageImageForum for all "old aircraft" related news, background, discussions and research.

Forum rules
ImageImageForum for all news, background, discussions and research on vintage aircraft, warbirds and wrecks & relics (stored, preserved, dumped etc). Actual logs -especially those of active airfields- are preferred to be posted in the appropriate Spotters forums.
Post Reply
patrick dirksen
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 3291
Joined: 11 Sep 2002, 00:12
Type of spotter: Mil & ex-mil, zowel nummers als platen!
Subscriber Scramble: patrick dirksen
Location: Eindhoven (en een beetje Epe)

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by patrick dirksen »

T-33 16520 indeed used to be at Paris-Massy.
For my own information: where do I find the c/n plate of a Su-22?
Cheers,

Patrick Dirksen
Tristar Aviation
User avatar
spotter4life
Scramble Junior
Scramble Junior
Posts: 202
Joined: 06 Apr 2007, 15:28
Subscriber Scramble: spotter4life
Location: Germany

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by spotter4life »

patrick dirksen wrote:For my own information: where do I find the c/n plate of a Su-22?
Main landing gear right and left side if you're looking in the forward direction. Most Su's have a blue stamp and a plate. At Baarlo I saw the first one where the stamp was overpainted...
Image
patrick dirksen
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 3291
Joined: 11 Sep 2002, 00:12
Type of spotter: Mil & ex-mil, zowel nummers als platen!
Subscriber Scramble: patrick dirksen
Location: Eindhoven (en een beetje Epe)

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by patrick dirksen »

OK, thanks. That will come in handy some next time ;-)
Cheers,

Patrick Dirksen
Tristar Aviation
User avatar
Stafpilot
Scramble Junior
Scramble Junior
Posts: 170
Joined: 03 Aug 2003, 02:08
Type of spotter: S2
Subscriber Scramble: yes
Location: Ede, The Netherlands

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by Stafpilot »

Mr. Smedts also bought Caravelle F-BHRA from Air France at Paris-Massy and is in process of transferring the plane to Baarlo. This as such is extraordinary but on top it is special in so far that it is the first Caravelle build.
Regards, Jos
F104 Starfighter --> the real thing
Beagle
Scramble Junior
Scramble Junior
Posts: 103
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 21:00

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by Beagle »

That's great news! But it's actually the third Caravelle built - don't forget the 2 prototypes F-BHHH & F-BHHI.
User avatar
Stratofreighter
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 22206
Joined: 25 Jan 2006, 08:02
Location: Netherlands

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by Stratofreighter »

Stafpilot wrote:Mr. Smedts also bought Caravelle F-BHRA from Air France at Paris-Massy and is in process of transferring the plane to Baarlo.
Apparently this one has now arrived at Baarlo? Anyone know when this actually happened :?:
November 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
User avatar
Stafpilot
Scramble Junior
Scramble Junior
Posts: 170
Joined: 03 Aug 2003, 02:08
Type of spotter: S2
Subscriber Scramble: yes
Location: Ede, The Netherlands

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by Stafpilot »

Stratofreighter wrote:
Stafpilot wrote:Mr. Smedts also bought Caravelle F-BHRA from Air France at Paris-Massy and is in process of transferring the plane to Baarlo.
Apparently this one has now arrived at Baarlo? Anyone know when this actually happened :?:
They started dismantling the aircraft the week before my visit on May 14th. The wings and engines where at Baarlo at that moment. The week after they planned to go back to France to resume dismantling and transportation to Baarlo.

I also noticed on the premises the tail of Belgian AF F-104 FX-02 as well as wings, most likely of the same plane.

At the Kessel location I saw another Belgian AF F-104, of which I can not find any report on Internet.
F104 Starfighter --> the real thing
User avatar
Stratofreighter
Scramble Master
Scramble Master
Posts: 22206
Joined: 25 Jan 2006, 08:02
Location: Netherlands

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by Stratofreighter »

PS Aero is to export 11 (yes, eleven) military aircraft to Greece this year. Yes, the export permits have already been granted... :idea:
November 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
User avatar
Optimus
Scramble Die-Hard
Scramble Die-Hard
Posts: 996
Joined: 12 Feb 2004, 10:16
Subscriber Scramble: Optimus

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by Optimus »

Stafpilot wrote:
Stratofreighter wrote:
Stafpilot wrote:Mr. Smedts also bought Caravelle F-BHRA from Air France at Paris-Massy and is in process of transferring the plane to Baarlo.
Apparently this one has now arrived at Baarlo? Anyone know when this actually happened :?:
They started dismantling the aircraft the week before my visit on May 14th. The wings and engines where at Baarlo at that moment. The week after they planned to go back to France to resume dismantling and transportation to Baarlo.

I also noticed on the premises the tail of Belgian AF F-104 FX-02 as well as wings, most likely of the same plane.

At the Kessel location I saw another Belgian AF F-104, of which I can not find any report on Internet.
I just did a search about its status and came across the following picture on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/l8rmt/6124126250/) and I must say they've done an excellent job putting it back together!

Kees
Image
User avatar
maurits
Scramble Addict
Scramble Addict
Posts: 1679
Joined: 27 Apr 2004, 23:36
Type of spotter: full military
Subscriber Scramble: maurits
Location: IJsselstein

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by maurits »

Hi there,

Last Wednesday, 11 January I made a short stop at the Baarlo-storage. Behind the Aldi-supermarket I noticed the newly arrived ex Luftwaffe 50+98 C-160D.
The wings were removed and the plane is parked behind the special color Atlantic 61+11. Further not much changes, some a/c left the storage.
Two new aircraft on display along the main road next to the F-104G ''D-8212'' on pole: F-104G 26+72 in Marineflieger-demo c/s and MiG-23MF ''593 red NVA'' in glossy dark grey. I presume this should be ex 20+09/Lw?

Regards,

Maurits
kind regards,

Maurits
User avatar
witje
Scramble Addict
Scramble Addict
Posts: 2224
Joined: 26 Aug 2005, 12:51
Type of spotter: Military
Subscriber Scramble: witje
Location: Volkel

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by witje »

Today I drove by and the garage door most to the left was open. One aircraft was inside, but it was hard to see. Looked like a Jaguar, but it has parts with dayglow. When I turned the car the door closed, so I couldn't see it again.
Do someone know which aircraft this is?

In front of the building were standing "D-8212", 593 and 26+72.
Martijn
User avatar
Patrol321
Scramble Junior
Scramble Junior
Posts: 166
Joined: 08 Jan 2004, 13:16
Subscriber Scramble: Patrol321

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by Patrol321 »

The aircraft you saw with dayglow might have been the french Mirage 3b.

[size=80][b][i][ Post made via Mobile Device ][/i][/b][/size]
DMWR
Scramble Junior
Scramble Junior
Posts: 118
Joined: 17 Feb 2010, 10:38
Type of spotter: W&R
Subscriber Scramble: 792

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by DMWR »

The Mirage 3B 235 is sold to the Pilas Foundation in Greece. If you saw a Jaguar it is
most likely that it was the XX947 FE. The other one, is the XZ357 FK at the storage
in Kessel.
User avatar
witje
Scramble Addict
Scramble Addict
Posts: 2224
Joined: 26 Aug 2005, 12:51
Type of spotter: Military
Subscriber Scramble: witje
Location: Volkel

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by witje »

Thanks for all the replies. I mailed the owner and he told me it was the Tornado.
Martijn
leonard van T
Scramble Die-Hard
Scramble Die-Hard
Posts: 759
Joined: 18 Jun 2010, 17:58
Type of spotter: nummers (soms ook foto)
Subscriber Scramble: leonard van T
Location: Huizen

Re: Baarlo & Kessel (collection)

Post by leonard van T »

After Geilenkirchen I stopped at Kessel,
I can,t find any recent reports of kessel/Baarlo

underlined serials are from old reports;

Kessel(NL) 17 juni 2012
4095 Alpha-Jet stored
2160 F-104G stored c/n7029
2361 F-104G stored
2561 F-104G stored fuselage only
2630 F-104G stored fuselage only
Br.1150 stored rear end only
Mi-2 stored
2056 MiG-23UB stored “23”
B-05/LE BN-2A-21 stored
FX 58 F-104G stored
K-4063 NF-5A stored
P-263 F-84F stored FMS 56-6748
1809 MiG-21M stored
1909 MiG-21R stored
2007 MiG-21M stored
2008 MiG-21M stored
8909 MiG-21MF stored
XZ357/FK Jaguar GR.3A stored

Who can help me with the Mi-2
of the Atlantic, I could only see the rear end of the fuselage on its side
Left of the NF-5 is something else laying, looks a bit like the tail-boom of a helicopter?
there is also a fuselage of something like an Antonov-24 ???

Baarlo(NL) 17 juni 2012
2672 F-104G preserved
2009 MiG-23MF preserved as 593
2463 F-104G preserved as D-8212

FU-10 F-84F preserved as Klu
4052 Alpha-Jet A preserved
4065 Alpha-Jet A stored
6111 Br-1150 preserved
5098 C-160D preserved
9905 G-91R/3 preserved
2513 Su-22M-4 stored
2541 Su-22M-4 preserved
9816 Su-22UM-3K preserved
9806 Tornado MRCA preserved
1914 MiG-21M preserved
0219 Mi-24D preserved
XX974/FE Jaguar GR.3A preserved
64-0345 GF-4C preserved
The Alpha-Jet 4052 is on a trailer ready to depart
I am not so sure about the MiG-21 behind the Tornado
the ALDI was closed so I had only a limited view.

Leonard
Post Reply

Return to “Vintage, warbirds and wrecks & relics”