Request for a research

[FlaRak]

Hey folks,

I'm currently getting trained (in the military) as an aircraft mechanic and we have a few planes on our base and I would like to know where these planes were stationed before but can't really find something on the net.

It's a Starfighter numbered: 20+46

A Alpha Jet numbered: 46+20

And a Huey numbered: 73+14

Maybe some of you know something about these birds

Regards

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[Stefan]

Hello FlaRak,

It's a Starfighter numbered: 20+46

F-104G 20+46 JaboG 34

construction number 683-2054, model 683-10-19, built by Lockheed
first flight November 11, 1961, Lockheed test flights coded "154"
KF+129 at Palmdale for tests of NASARR radar in February 1962, delivery date March 5, 1962
airlifted to Germany March 16, 1962 with 28 flight hours in a Canadair CL-44D of "Flying Tiger Line"
DA+110 JaboG 31 on May 21, 1962
"Project 19" upgrading in order to get all Norvenich aircraft to the same modification level starting in January 1963
"Category III" operational profiles and system tests from April until July 1963, camouflage scheme TA-196 "Norm 62" in 1966
DD+120 code on March 3, 1966, SABCA for periodic inspection October 26, 1966, JaboG 34 on February 6, 1967
20+46 withdrawn from use November 19, 1985 at LwSchleuse 11 with 3.835 flight hours
struck off charge order March 18, 1986
instructional at MBB Augsburg December 3, 1986, 1990 to museum Koch at Mühlhausen Airport
gate guard DASA plant III at Augsburg April 7,1999, 2002 not noted, stored Speyer October 2004 for new paint and markings
preserved Pfalz-Flugzeugwerke Speyer early 2005 (on loan from EADS Augsburg)
November 19, 2006 noted in clean configuration, April 1, 2008 configured with 4 tanks last noted
source: http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/2046.htm

A Alpha Jet numbered: 46+20

There is no Alpha Jet with serial 46+20. Do you mean at Tornado or has the Alpha Jet been given a new serial?

And a Huey numbered: 73+14

Dornier built
HFR30 (jun94/aug01)
TDY WTD61? (jan97)
(o/h Oberpfaffenhofen (dec99))
stored Oberpfaffenhofen (mar06)


Return question; where are these aircraft now (with Pfalz?) and can you find out when they arrived there?

MfG,
Stefan

[Flyboy]

you just bet me... what would live be without search engines...

Present location of the starfighter http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6652956&nseq=11 would be Gross-Siegharts, Austria ??

[RobertMB]

you just bet me... what would live be without search engines...

Present location of the starfighter http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6652956&nseq=11 would be Gross-Siegharts, Austria ??

"38-12" is ex 24+60..... You forgot to scroll down to serial 20+46.....

[Flyboy]

more haste less speed.....

[FlaRak]

Oh sorry the aircrafts are inside a maintenance Hangar at PFW Speyer except for the Starfighter. The Alpha Jets serial is written correct which is pretty wierd....

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[spotter4life]

The Alpha Jets serial is written correct which is pretty wierd....

Take a look at the vertical stabilizer, maybe the CN is still painted there. Otherwise look into the cockpit. Sometimes you find the real serial written somewhere

[frank kramer]

According to the picture in the link below, the Alpha Jet is 40+26, and that IS a correct serial...

http://www.lvu.de/news/single/d/2011/04 ... realitaet/

...and according to the next link, this A-Jet was in the Gatow museum in 2007...

http://www.planespotting.nl/newphotos/Gatow/40+26.JPG

...with last pictures there on airliners net dating from november, 2008. Scramble database has it last noted there in February, 2009. Does anyone know if it is still there or did it actually move to Speyer?

[FlaRak]

It moved to Speyer im here at the moment.

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EDIT: and by the way thanks for the research, pretty interesting where these planes are from.

[Stefan]

If the Alpha Jet is the genuine 40+26, then this is the major part of its history:

Dornier built
TGp31/ATV
JBG49 (apr80/feb82)
JBG41 (jun82/jul92)
stored Fürstenfeldbruck (18jan94/jun95)
stored Berlin-Gatow (aug96/mar98)
pres museum Berlin-Gatow (dec99/feb09) outside

[FlaRak]

Well its not in Berlin anymore it's here in speyer.

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[frank kramer]

FlaRak, you're welcome; Thank you for adding to common knowledge of the history of these airframes (and to the Sctramble database!). Just for completeness' sake: could you please confirm the number on the tail of the Alpha, beneath the German flag (if that is still there, of course, it tends to be removed from instructional airframes every now and then...)? Much appreciated!

[spotter4life]

Just for completeness' sake: could you please confirm the number on the tail of the Alpha, beneath the German flag (if that is still there, of course, it tends to be removed from instructional airframes every now and then...)

At 2008 in Berlin it was "Luftwaffe-Alpha Jet-0026" on the right side

[FlaRak]

Hey, yeah sure I'll have a look at the alpha jet on Friday before I head to Ramstein.

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[FlaRak]

Hey Scramblers,

I sadly couldn't find a serial on the vertical stab. But the instructors told me that this is the Alpha Jet from Berlin Gatow. They took it apart and moved it to Speyer with trucks.

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