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News + Req: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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Since October (?) 2 former Czech AF Mi-17's are at Eindhoven airport in a hangar in brown (primer?). C/N's mentioned 108M04 and 108M13. Both are/were active with an American organisation. See info from Scramble DB for c/n 108M13 (other c/n history almost the same).

C/n Full type Reg / serial / code Operator / Colour Scheme First reported
108M13 Mi-17 0813 Czechoslovak AF Kbe 04aug91
108M13 Mi-17 0813 Czech Air Force trf 01jan93
108M13 Mi-17 3C-QSI Real Progress PRG 09nov02
108M13 Mi-17 N25330 Delaware Corps
108M13 Mi-17 N8066L RJ Harroff Bus.As. rgd 22jan04
108M13 Mi-17 N8066L LLH Services LLC rgd 12apr05

December 19th arrived 2 former Pakistani Mi-8MTV's:
From EWAS:
Summary of info on the helo's: both Hips are Mi-8MTV-1's (which are in essence Mi-17's, as the Mi-17 is the export name for the Mi-8M-family. The serials in question are 58505 and 58506, both ex stored Kabul, both ex PAAC (Pakistan Army Aviation Command). The Augustus '11 issue of Air Forces Monthly discloses that these two Hips, together with three others, were acquired from the PAAC by the Afghan Air Force for stripping of spare parts. They were all seen stored at Kabul Airport on June 11, 2011. It was assumed that they were all destined for relocation to - and scrapping at - the south side of Kabul Airport. This seems to have been avoided now, at least for the two that arrived at Eindhoven.

December 23rd more choppers are expected, see:
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=80598

Anyone a clue what the futureplans are for those choppers? Are the Pakistani for spare parts for the former Czech?? Are they for Baarlo?
Some (at least one) former Czech Mi-8's are now in service with the Afghan AF (c/n 108M09), maybe this ones rebuild for Afghan AF?
Are choppers visible from outside through hangarwindows and what time are they expected to stay?

Any info is welcome.

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Re: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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See for all answers to your questions the EWAS forums. Lets stick to one place to discuss this matter.

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jreijmer wrote:See for all answers to your questions the EWAS forums. Lets stick to one place to discuss this matter.
Link = http://www.ewas.nl/eforum/viewtopic.php?t=12687
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Not everybody is a member at EWAS! Or is it on an open site?

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jreijmer wrote:See for all answers to your questions the EWAS forums. Lets stick to one place to discuss this matter.

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as I am not a member off EWAS, please inform us at Scramble MB.

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As EWAS is members only, please continue over here.

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Re: News + Req: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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I agree with you Thijs.
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Re: News + Req: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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First Hip out of the Il-76 had 303 code on the tailboom en 14 on the fuselage.
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Re: News + Req: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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Copied from EWAS:

Even samenvatten van wat er nu allemaal geschreven is hier sinds de eerste Mi's arriveerden, en hoe het plaatje er uit zou zien:

Als eerste arriveerden op donderdag 06-10-2011 in de RA-76950
Mi-17 804 c/n 108M04, ex Czech AF 0804
Mi-17 813 c/n 108M13, ex Czech AF 0813

Afgelopen maandag 19-12-2011 met 4K-AZ100:
Mi-8MTV-1 58505 c/n 94081, ex PAAC
Mi-8MTV-1 58506 c/n 94512, ex PAAC, ex US Army 94512?

Vandaag, vrijdag 23-12-2011 met de 4K-AZ100:
Mi-17 303 c/n 103M03, ex QinetiQ ZB698, ex Bulg.AF 403, bij QinetiQ stond deze ook te boek als Mi-8MTV-1
Mi-8MTV-1 58503 c/n 95007?, ex PAAC, c/n? geschreven op losse vrachtdeuren

Vandaag, vrijdag 23-12-2011 met de RA-76952:
Mi-8MTV-1 58502 c/n ?, ex PAAC
Mi-8MTV-1 58501 c/n ?, ex PAAC

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Update: US Army zou ook een 95007 gehad hebben?

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Re: News + Req: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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witje wrote:Copied from EWAS:

Even samenvatten van wat er nu allemaal geschreven is hier sinds de eerste Mi's arriveerden, en hoe het plaatje er uit zou zien:

Als eerste arriveerden op donderdag 06-10-2011 in de RA-76950
Mi-17 804 c/n 108M04, ex Czech AF 0804
Mi-17 813 c/n 108M13, ex Czech AF 0813

Afgelopen maandag 19-12-2011 met 4K-AZ100:
Mi-8MTV-1 58505 c/n 94081, ex PAAC
Mi-8MTV-1 58506 c/n 94512, ex PAAC, ex US Army 94512?

Vandaag, vrijdag 23-12-2011 met de 4K-AZ100:
Mi-17 303 c/n 103M03, ex QinetiQ ZB698, ex Bulg.AF 403, bij QinetiQ stond deze ook te boek als Mi-8MTV-1
Mi-8MTV-1 58503 c/n 95007?, ex PAAC, c/n? geschreven op losse vrachtdeuren

Vandaag, vrijdag 23-12-2011 met de RA-76952:
Mi-8MTV-1 58502 c/n ?, ex PAAC
Mi-8MTV-1 58501 c/n ?, ex PAAC

updates welkom

Update: US Army zou ook een 95007 gehad hebben?

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Basic type Mi-8
C/n 95007
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Full type Reg / serial / code Operator / Colour Scheme First reported Remarks
Mi-8MTV CCCP-70926 Soviet Air Force rgd 23apr92 canx but date unknown; possibly to USAF as 97-95007 ??
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Re: News + Req: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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Lightning wrote: Mi-17 804 c/n 108M04, ex Czech AF 0804, to 3C-QSG civ later to N25277 (ntu)
Mi-17 813 c/n 108M13, ex Czech AF 0813, to 3C-QSI civ later to N25330 (ntu), N8066L

Also as Mi-17-1B on struts. B = V in Russisch, c/n's confirmed vandaag.

Afgelopen maandag 19-12-2011 met 4K-AZ100:
Mi-8MTV-1 58505 c/n 94081, ex PAAC
Mi-8MTV-1 58506 c/n 94512, ex PAAC, ex US Army 94512

Alle 9... zijn GAZ#9 Kazan gebouwd.

Vandaag, vrijdag 23-12-2011 met de 4K-AZ100:
Mi-17 303 c/n 103M03, ex QinetiQ ZB698, ex Bulg.AF 403, bij QinetiQ stond deze ook te boek als Mi-8MTV-1
Dat is een interresante, waar vloog die dan plots de laatste maanden met '14' en '12' op een raam, in nieuwe kleuren na operatie 'Curium' van de Engelsen, 92 reported as codes by JvR

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Re: News + Req: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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Vandaag, vrijdag 23-12-2011 met de 4K-AZ100: Mi-17 303 c/n 103M03, ex QinetiQ ZB698, ex Bulg.AF 403, bij QinetiQ stond deze ook te boek als Mi-8MTV-1
Dat is een interresante, waar vloog die dan plots de laatste maanden met '14' en '12' op een raam, in nieuwe kleuren na operatie 'Curium' van de Engelsen?
Deze staat als "transferred to Afghanistan" in de boeken ... http://www.airfighters.com/photosearch.php?con=103M03

En hier iets over Operation Curium : http://www.prnewswire.eu/cgi/news/release?id=280938
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Re: News + Req: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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:!: Important. Camera displays are not 100% reliable. At home I noticed that c/n 94081 is not correct. It should be 94094! :!:

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Re: News + Req: Mi-8/17 at Eindhoven

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One question that's still open: is it possible to see all these rarities some way??
Only one I already "have" is the formr QinetiQ one....
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