Wow! That's a clear failure for the Skyraider... We're all human, but it's still a sad loss.FALCONCREST wrote:Good video of the collision : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xctYWSuw ... r_embedded
MUSTANG CRASH @ DUXFORD
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What a tragedy but gladley unharmed. Sorry Johan, You said that the pilot of the Mustang ejected but Mustangs don't have an ejectionseat so he bailed out. or did it had an ejectionseat?
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Rob Davies bailed/jumped out himself, there never was an ejection seat fitted in a Mustang.
That bail-out was not before time...
That bail-out was not before time...
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The 'originally published' North American Aviation P51 Pilot's Flight Operating Instructions (Manual), have a BAILOUT PROCEDURE sectionStratofreighter wrote:Rob Davies bailed/jumped out himself, there never was an ejection seat fitted in a Mustang.
That bail-out was not before time...
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Two sided feelings with these sort of accidents.
On the one hand I'm very glad that these birds till fly instead of standing in a dusty museum somewhere. Beautiful planes need to fly.
On the other hand is it a very costly loss, a very rare bird crashed because of a simple pilot error (not blaming the Spad pilot since this could have happend to anyone) which makes you think that these birds are becoming too rare to fly around with at airshows.
Think we should be glad that the Mustang driver survived which is the most important. And trying to look for the positive side: there could have been 2 crashes. Looking at the damage of the Spad I assume it will fly again? Anyone info on this?
On the one hand I'm very glad that these birds till fly instead of standing in a dusty museum somewhere. Beautiful planes need to fly.
On the other hand is it a very costly loss, a very rare bird crashed because of a simple pilot error (not blaming the Spad pilot since this could have happend to anyone) which makes you think that these birds are becoming too rare to fly around with at airshows.
Think we should be glad that the Mustang driver survived which is the most important. And trying to look for the positive side: there could have been 2 crashes. Looking at the damage of the Spad I assume it will fly again? Anyone info on this?
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Well put Thermal, I couldn't agree more!
It's such an amazing feeling when you see these aircraft flying, but such a shame when these kinds of incidents happen and such a rare old bird is lost.
As you said, the most important thing is that both pilots survived to tell the tale.
It's such an amazing feeling when you see these aircraft flying, but such a shame when these kinds of incidents happen and such a rare old bird is lost.
As you said, the most important thing is that both pilots survived to tell the tale.
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Best recording of the accident this far. Looks like the Mustang had not very much damage after the collision, it was only pushed in another direction. The part flying of was the wing end of the Skyraider. Glad the Mustangs pilot got out alive, but after this footage i wonder if there was a possibility that the Mustang could have landed after the collision. We will never know.
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There is bound to massive interest in the AAIB-report when it comes out. Continuing the speculation: perhaps a flight control surface got jammed, i.e. the elevatorCoHaBa wrote:Best recording of the accident this far. Looks like the Mustang had not very much damage after the collision, it was only pushed in another direction. The part flying of was the wing end of the Skyraider. Glad the Mustangs pilot got out alive, but after this footage i wonder if there was a possibility that the Mustang could have landed after the collision. We will never know.
Just in case David's website crashes due to excessive demand; he also put his video at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xctYWSuwoYA
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xctYWSuwoYA[/youtube]
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This must be a world record: the same film posted as 'Look at the film that I've just found' four times in one day.
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Okay, for all peopleSlijfie wrote:This must be a world record: the same film posted as 'Look at the film that I've just found' four times in one day.
Yes, the David Taylor clip as seen at Youtube (see video image above! ) and http://www.flyingfilm.co.uk/ has now already been put up three times, so please, no more...
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Yes, we know. First... it is visible on pictures (see http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35138 - this link is also mentioned on page 2), second... the pilot walked away from the crash and can do his story.CoHaBa wrote:Best recording of the accident this far. Looks like the Mustang had not very much damage after the collision, it was only pushed in another direction. The part flying of was the wing end of the Skyraider. Glad the Mustangs pilot got out alive, but after this footage i wonder if there was a possibility that the Mustang could have landed after the collision. We will never know.
If you look at pictures 5 and 6 you can clearly see a big gash in the underside of the Mustang just behind the radiator (under the USAAF roundel just in front of the letter "I" of WZ-I). There is no way you could have landed that aircraft, because any moment that whole tail could have come off.
The pilot has felt the collision (his aircraft was almost pushed out of the sky) en after that probably very severe vibrations. You can't see the back of the aircraft from the cockpit and you're at low altitude. There were only 16 seconds between the collision and the jump, but how many seconds between the moment the chute fully opened and his landing?
I don't know if Rob Davies feels bad about losing 'his' Mustang or feels happy to be alive, but it was absolutely the right decision at the right time.
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Yes, yet another video .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rshow.html has several photos which haven't appeared here yet. The video at the bottom is a "new" one.
http://bcove.me/ii47izav is a direct link to that Daily Mail video.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rshow.html has several photos which haven't appeared here yet. The video at the bottom is a "new" one.
http://bcove.me/ii47izav is a direct link to that Daily Mail video.
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Re: MUSTANG CRASH @ DUXFORD
pictures of the crash scene are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37660802@N ... 496346485/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37660802@N ... 496346485/