EHLW 13-04-2010
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- DrDree
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Re: EHLW 13-04-2010
Maybe as a bonus or surprise for "us spotters"?
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Re: EHLW 13-04-2010
what could be an interesting discussion is why this is organised for the media and not for us spotters? apart from aviation magazines, the media don't give a bollocks about military aviation (apart from the fact that they're more or less left and against the military).
- blu109
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Re: EHLW 13-04-2010
Thats simple,Withnail wrote:what could be an interesting discussion is why this is organised for the media and not for us spotters? apart from aviation magazines, the media don't give a bollocks about military aviation (apart from the fact that they're more or less left and against the military).
The spotting conditions at the dutch airfields are quite good so you can take your shots at those places.
Re: EHLW 13-04-2010
Just wondering; have you even considered any measures the KLu could take to better present themselves to the 'more or less left' media? Such as giving them the opportunity to talk to participating crew or film the aircraft up close?Withnail wrote: the media don't give a bollocks about military aviation (apart from the fact that they're more or less left and against the military).
Rings a bell maybe? Think before you post.
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- Polecat
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Re: EHLW 13-04-2010
and how about aviation media (like Flight, AFM, Air Int'l Piloot en Vliegtuig etc), military media (Jane's), national military media from participating countries (Defensiekrant, De Vliegende Hollander and likewise), local media that are an informationtool for people affected by the noise etc.....????Withnail wrote:what could be an interesting discussion is why this is organised for the media and not for us spotters? apart from aviation magazines, the media don't give a bollocks about military aviation (apart from the fact that they're more or less left and against the military).
and for sure yesterday's pressgroup never came anywhere near those aircraft, maybe they were put there as background for taking groupphotos?
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Re: EHLW 13-04-2010
I was there and at Wittmund too, luckily at both airfields BEFORE the ash came in
here is my log of aircraft movements of interest for ME at Leeuwarden:
LEEUWARDEN TUESDAY 2010-04-13 RW16
Weather: blue sky, clear air, light to moderate wind, rather cool
Based aircraft (303, 322 and 323 Squadron):
AB.412SP 303 Sqn R-02 T09:20 L12:20
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-513 T09:35 L11:34*
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-631 T09:35 L11:34*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-876 T09:48 L11:17#3
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-632 T09:48 L11:17#3
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-512 T09:49 L11:17#3
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-202 T09:49 L11:01*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-879 no badge T09:52 L11:01*
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-881 T09:52 L11:00*
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-362 T09:53 L11:00*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-509 no badge T10:07 L11:21*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-632 no badge T10:07 L11:21*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-516 T14:00 L15:30*
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-872 T14:00 L15:30*
Detached aircraft (all for exercise "Frisian Flag 2010"):
Falcon 20ECM FEKS 053 T09:30 L11:39+
F-16C 31.blt 4053 T09:32 L11:35*
F-16C 31.blt 4055 T09:32 L11:28*
F-16C 31.blt 4061 T09:33 L11:28*
F-16C 31.blt 4041 T09:33 L11:35*
F-4F JG 71 38+42 T09:37 L11:17*
F-4F JG 71 37+75 T09:37 L11:17*
F-4F JG 71 38+26 T09:38 L10:59*
F-4F JG 71 38+24 T09:38 L10:59*
F-15C 493rdFS 84-015/LN bk T09:41 L11:03*
F-15C 493rdFS 86-174/LN bk T09:41 L11:03*
F-15C 493rdFS 84-019/LN bk T09:41 L11:32+
F-15D 493rdFS 86-182/LN bk T09:42 L11:19*
F-15C 493rdFS 86-154/LN bk T09:42 L11:19*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-418/18 T09:45 L11:34*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-432/32 T09:45 L11:34*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-446/46 T09:45 L11:34*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-427/27 T09:45 L11:34*
F-16AM 312 Sqn J-646 T09:50 L11:10#4
F-16AM 311 Sqn J-003 T09:50 L11:10#4
F-16AM 311 Sqn J-005 T09:50 L11:10#4
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-146 T09:51 L11:10#4
F-16AM 312 Sqn J-016 T09:59 L11:19*
F-16AM 313 Sqn J-018 T09:59 L11:19*
F-16AM FLO 663 T09:55 L11:29#4
F-16AM FLO 686 T09:55 L11:29#4
F-16AM FLO 687 T09:55 L11:30#4
F-16AM FLO 299 T09:55 L11:30#4
JAS39C F21 39246/246 T09:57 L11:12#4
JAS39C F21 39231/231 T09:57 L11:12#4
JAS39C F21 39275/275 T09:57 L11:12#4
JAS39C F21 39260/260 T09:57 L11:12#4
F-16AM FLO 279 T10:10 L11:31#4
F-16AM FLO 285 T10:10 L11:31#4
F-16AM FLO 659 T10:10 L11:31#4
F-16AM FLO 291 T10:10 L11:31#4
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Falcon 20ECM FEKS 053 T13:35 L15:35+
F-4F JG 71 37+75 T13:43 L15:15*
F-4F JG 71 38+24 T13:43 L15:15*
JAS39C F21 39231/231 T13:45 L15:28#4
JAS39C F21 39265/265 T13:45 L15:28#4
JAS39C F21 39232/232 T13:45 L15:28#4
JAS39C F21 39246/246 T13:45 L15:28#4
F-15C 493rdFS 86-176/LN bk T13:47 L15:32#4
F-15C 493rdFS 86-154/LN bk T13:47 L15:33#4
F-15D 493rdFS 86-182/LN bk T13:48 L15:33#4
F-15D 493rdFS 84-044/LN bk T13:59 L15:32#4
F-15C 493rdFS 84-019/LN bk T13:50 L15:13*
F-15C 493rdFS 84-015/LN bk T13:50 L15:13*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-418/18 T13:55 L15:22#4
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-446/46 T13:55 L15:22#4
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-432/32 T13:56 L15:23#4
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-427/27 T13:56 L15:23#4
F-16C 31.blt 4061 T14:07 L15:26*
F-16C 31.blt 4041 T14:07 L15:26*
F-16D 31.blt 4084 T14:20 L15:25*
F-16C 31.blt 4055 T14:20 L15:25*
Visiting aircraft (aircraft change):
F-4F JG 71 37+26 L13:30
F-4F JG 71 38+74 T14:45
here is my log of aircraft movements of interest for ME at Leeuwarden:
LEEUWARDEN TUESDAY 2010-04-13 RW16
Weather: blue sky, clear air, light to moderate wind, rather cool
Based aircraft (303, 322 and 323 Squadron):
AB.412SP 303 Sqn R-02 T09:20 L12:20
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-513 T09:35 L11:34*
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-631 T09:35 L11:34*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-876 T09:48 L11:17#3
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-632 T09:48 L11:17#3
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-512 T09:49 L11:17#3
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-202 T09:49 L11:01*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-879 no badge T09:52 L11:01*
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-881 T09:52 L11:00*
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-362 T09:53 L11:00*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-509 no badge T10:07 L11:21*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-632 no badge T10:07 L11:21*
F-16AM 322 Sqn J-516 T14:00 L15:30*
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-872 T14:00 L15:30*
Detached aircraft (all for exercise "Frisian Flag 2010"):
Falcon 20ECM FEKS 053 T09:30 L11:39+
F-16C 31.blt 4053 T09:32 L11:35*
F-16C 31.blt 4055 T09:32 L11:28*
F-16C 31.blt 4061 T09:33 L11:28*
F-16C 31.blt 4041 T09:33 L11:35*
F-4F JG 71 38+42 T09:37 L11:17*
F-4F JG 71 37+75 T09:37 L11:17*
F-4F JG 71 38+26 T09:38 L10:59*
F-4F JG 71 38+24 T09:38 L10:59*
F-15C 493rdFS 84-015/LN bk T09:41 L11:03*
F-15C 493rdFS 86-174/LN bk T09:41 L11:03*
F-15C 493rdFS 84-019/LN bk T09:41 L11:32+
F-15D 493rdFS 86-182/LN bk T09:42 L11:19*
F-15C 493rdFS 86-154/LN bk T09:42 L11:19*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-418/18 T09:45 L11:34*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-432/32 T09:45 L11:34*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-446/46 T09:45 L11:34*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-427/27 T09:45 L11:34*
F-16AM 312 Sqn J-646 T09:50 L11:10#4
F-16AM 311 Sqn J-003 T09:50 L11:10#4
F-16AM 311 Sqn J-005 T09:50 L11:10#4
F-16AM 323 Sqn J-146 T09:51 L11:10#4
F-16AM 312 Sqn J-016 T09:59 L11:19*
F-16AM 313 Sqn J-018 T09:59 L11:19*
F-16AM FLO 663 T09:55 L11:29#4
F-16AM FLO 686 T09:55 L11:29#4
F-16AM FLO 687 T09:55 L11:30#4
F-16AM FLO 299 T09:55 L11:30#4
JAS39C F21 39246/246 T09:57 L11:12#4
JAS39C F21 39231/231 T09:57 L11:12#4
JAS39C F21 39275/275 T09:57 L11:12#4
JAS39C F21 39260/260 T09:57 L11:12#4
F-16AM FLO 279 T10:10 L11:31#4
F-16AM FLO 285 T10:10 L11:31#4
F-16AM FLO 659 T10:10 L11:31#4
F-16AM FLO 291 T10:10 L11:31#4
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Falcon 20ECM FEKS 053 T13:35 L15:35+
F-4F JG 71 37+75 T13:43 L15:15*
F-4F JG 71 38+24 T13:43 L15:15*
JAS39C F21 39231/231 T13:45 L15:28#4
JAS39C F21 39265/265 T13:45 L15:28#4
JAS39C F21 39232/232 T13:45 L15:28#4
JAS39C F21 39246/246 T13:45 L15:28#4
F-15C 493rdFS 86-176/LN bk T13:47 L15:32#4
F-15C 493rdFS 86-154/LN bk T13:47 L15:33#4
F-15D 493rdFS 86-182/LN bk T13:48 L15:33#4
F-15D 493rdFS 84-044/LN bk T13:59 L15:32#4
F-15C 493rdFS 84-019/LN bk T13:50 L15:13*
F-15C 493rdFS 84-015/LN bk T13:50 L15:13*
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-418/18 T13:55 L15:22#4
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-446/46 T13:55 L15:22#4
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-432/32 T13:56 L15:23#4
F-18C HävLLv 21 HN-427/27 T13:56 L15:23#4
F-16C 31.blt 4061 T14:07 L15:26*
F-16C 31.blt 4041 T14:07 L15:26*
F-16D 31.blt 4084 T14:20 L15:25*
F-16C 31.blt 4055 T14:20 L15:25*
Visiting aircraft (aircraft change):
F-4F JG 71 37+26 L13:30
F-4F JG 71 38+74 T14:45