Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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Hello,

03/01

KLM made a aborted take-off on the 09.Vacated via N9
Reason: Open winds
Flight number was something with 5 and 7 and the SQ B777 was just behind it.

If someone knows which flight this was with type,registration enz.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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Royaljordanian wrote:Hello,

03/01

KLM made a aborted take-off on the 09.Vacated via N9
Reason: Open winds
Flight number was something with 5 and 7 and the SQ B777 was just behind it.

If someone knows which flight this was with type,registration enz.

Thanks in advance,
Greetings,
Kristof
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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Royaljordanian wrote:Hello,

03/01

KLM made a aborted take-off on the 09.Vacated via N9
Reason: Open winds
Flight number was something with 5 and 7 and the SQ B777 was just behind it.

If someone knows which flight this was with type,registration enz.

Thanks in advance,
Greetings,
Kristof
Might be KL597/BQD, offblocks 1030lt and via RW09 1108lt airborne..is the only flight i could find with 5+7 :wink:
SQ was airborne at 1054lt..
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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Royaljordanian wrote:Reason: Open winds
¿Errr.... I'm not quite following you: what's "Open Winds" exactly?
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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pjotrtje wrote:
Royaljordanian wrote:Reason: Open winds
¿Errr.... I'm not quite following you: what's "Open Winds" exactly?
Hello,

That are winds coming from different directions sometimes with hard gustings.

For example:
10.37 N wind 7 kts
10.38 S wind 14 kts

Something like that. :)

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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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Royaljordanian wrote:That are winds coming from different directions sometimes with hard gustings.

For example:
10.37 N wind 7 kts
10.38 S wind 14 kts
10.37 and 10.38 are times?
Then it is very dramatically and hardly happens, winds changing from 180° to 360° in a minute...
7 and 14 kts velocity are not too bad either.

At the time of abortion/take-off winds were from 200° about 11 knots.
This is a slight tailwind for runway 09, but not too bad usually for a B777.

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It was the KLM573 aborted take off (click for audio) due to sliding over (open) the window???
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BerendBotje wrote:due to sliding over (open) the window???
Yep, 'sliding open window' is what he says. I assume he means a window sliding open.
Royaljordanian wrote:
pjotrtje wrote:¿Errr.... I'm not quite following you: what's "Open Winds" exactly?
That are winds coming from different directions sometimes with hard gustings.
Well, like Pjotrtje, I have never heard of 'open winds' before. I would call what you describe a wind shift.

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Hello,

That was the conversation I heard. OK probably from open window I maked open wind so then I made open winds :)

I was talking to someone so I was only with 1/2 ear listening.

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KLM681 to YVR (MD11) and KL867 to KIX (B772 / BQP?) both returned also to the gate. Both left with quite some hours delay. Not the best day for KLM's longhaul ops today.... :?

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joost wrote:KLM 13T / 1703 , working 131.150 / 131.650 / 131.4375 (on my scanner)
Unable to Raise Landing gear. Don't think they will declare emergency as gear is down & Locked with good indications. (I have not heard them doing it yet that is)

Should be PH-BXU

EDIT, will be Pan Pan
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Ce560XL CS-DXR has a collapsed RH main gear, after vacating 06 over 36R.
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Thanks BerendBotje for the audio...
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

Post by Thermal »

Well, like Pjotrtje, I have never heard of 'open winds' before. I would call what you describe a wind shift.
Hmm in my ATPL meteorology lessons I also have never heard of the term "open winds". Is it perhaps a local (Dutch) term?
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Re: Kisten die terugkeren naar Schiphol, incidenten, enz.

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No, it's not. See the explanation above.
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