A400M News

[JJ37]

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[Hurricane]

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?ID=33319

There is a growing possibility that the A400M-project will be cancelled / stopped due to unforeseen expences and lack of back-up from the customers for (money)response ...

Strange development to be honest

Adios, H.

[ehusmann]

Sounds like a bargaining tactic to me.

Erwin

[Polecat]

from Luchtvaartnieuws.nl:

De ontwikkeling van het toestel heeft tot dusver 20 miljard euro gekost. De eerste leveringen staan gepland voor 2013, drie jaar achter op het oorspronkelijke schema. In totaal liggen er 180 orders voor de A400M, afkomstig van zes Europese landen en Turkije.

If development has indeed cost 2bln, with roughly 200 a/c sold they 'only' have to get 100 mln per a/c for r&d... doesn't sound like a very good business proposition does it?

Though I agree it may be part of Enders' tactic, I'm not convinced that it is 100% bluff....
I think the continuation of the programme really depends on new extra customers..(but who )

[Frank van Hemert]

hi
and with the British cuts on the budgets I won't be surprised if the RAF pulls the second plug after South Africa...they ordered already an extra C-17 and more C-130's are not unlikely!

Regards
Frank

[Polecat]

hi
and with the British cuts on the budgets I won't be surprised if the RAF pulls the second plug after South Africa...they ordered already an extra C-17 and more C-130's are not unlikely!

Regards
Frank

and if I'm not mistaken, Lockheed announced at last years' Le Bourget that they were considering an extra fat-fuselaged C-130J variant... maybe these A-400M problems will lead to a new and really cool herky version!

[Le Addeur noir]

hi
and with the British cuts on the budgets I won't be surprised if the RAF pulls the second plug after South Africa...they ordered already an extra C-17 and more C-130's are not unlikely!

Regards
Frank

and if I'm not mistaken, Lockheed announced at last years' Le Bourget that they were considering an extra fat-fuselaged C-130J variant... maybe these A-400M problems will lead to a new and really cool herky version!

The only reason the British became involved with the A400M is politics.The forces have never wanted this airplane in the first place.

The latest farce is the UK Ministry of Defence have been told by EADS they will only receive 19 airplanes for the same money that was contracted for the original 25 airplanes.Hardly a glowing success story.

[Polecat]

hi
and with the British cuts on the budgets I won't be surprised if the RAF pulls the second plug after South Africa...they ordered already an extra C-17 and more C-130's are not unlikely!

Regards
Frank

and if I'm not mistaken, Lockheed announced at last years' Le Bourget that they were considering an extra fat-fuselaged C-130J variant... maybe these A-400M problems will lead to a new and really cool herky version!

The only reason the British became involved with the A400M is politics.The forces have never wanted this airplane in the first place.

The latest farce is the UK Ministry of Defence have been told by EADS they will only receive 19 airplanes for the same money that was contracted for the original 25 airplanes.Hardly a glowing success story.

So most likely; more C-130J's and C-17's, and maybe in due course some C-130J-XL's....

[Hurricane]

.Hardly a glowing success story.

Buy AN-70 !!!

[ehusmann]

The only reason the British became involved with the A400M is politics.The forces have never wanted this airplane in the first place.

The latest farce is the UK Ministry of Defence have been told by EADS they will only receive 19 airplanes for the same money that was contracted for the original 25 airplanes.Hardly a glowing success story.

If true, which wouldn´t surprise me, they will probably stay in. I mean, if it is the wrong plane from the beginning, less is only better isn´t it

Although I do like the looks of the A400M and would like it to become a success, a new version of the Herc is not such a bad idea either. Either way it will be interesting!

Erwin

[Le Addeur noir]

The only reason the British became involved with the A400M is politics.The forces have never wanted this airplane in the first place.

The latest farce is the UK Ministry of Defence have been told by EADS they will only receive 19 airplanes for the same money that was contracted for the original 25 airplanes.Hardly a glowing success story.

If true, which wouldn´t surprise me, they will probably stay in. I mean, if it is the wrong plane from the beginning, less is only better isn´t it

Although I do like the looks of the A400M and would like it to become a success, a new version of the Herc is not such a bad idea either. Either way it will be interesting!

Erwin

Not getting 19 airplanes for the originally budgeted funds for 25.

If Boeing said to any of it's customers for the new 787 they would only be receiving some 70% of the airplanes they ordered,but would have still have to pay 100% of the price of the original contract,I could see litigation and/or cancellation of orders being the order of the day.

EADS is government protected and therefore inefficient.

[SquAdmin]

EADS is government protected and therefore inefficient.

Like any other military aircraft manufacturer.

[Le Addeur noir]

EADS is government protected and therefore inefficient.

Like any other military aircraft manufacturer.

Certainly VERY true in the case of British Aerospace.

Corrupt(allegedly) as well.

[ehusmann]

Not getting 19 airplanes for the originally budgeted funds for 25.

Sorry if you missed the sarcastic undertone to it.... of course it isn't good, it is a disgrace to be honest. Spending 20 billion on the development of a new transport plane (not the most advanced fighter!) is just ridiculous.

EADS is government protected and therefore inefficient.

If it comes to the military projects I tend to agree, civil they are doing a bit better though.

Erwin

[Flanker27]

EADS is government protected and therefore inefficient.

Like any other military aircraft manufacturer.

I disagree, offtopic: Lockheed is working on Lean Six Sigma project for first the F-35 and then for its whole company and should cut back production costs to 90 mln per a/c!
Since early 2009 I have been introduced with the Six Sigma doctrine and we saw a lot of efficiency improvements since we reworked our processes according to its principles.