Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
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Melchior wrote
We had the following codes:
60-55 (Only front fuselage)
32-30
32-62
60-82
60-86
32-25
32-50
These are the same as in the last MAR.
So I do have the 32-63, 60-36 and 32-32
According to the MAR the MM are as following:
MM6325/32-25
MM6330/32-30
MM6350/32-50
MM6362/32-62
MM6432/60-82 (this is Melchior's 32-32)
MM6436/60-86 (this is Melchior's 60-36)
From the MM6463 (the 32-63 in Melchior's report) we only found a tail next to the G-91 with code 32-11. On this machine (with code 32-11) was painted the MM-number 6443?
Another MM-numbers of G-91's on the yard were the MM6445 (tail only) and the MM6461 (wings only).
Hopefully more people can check their logs to solve the problem with the G-91's.
Regards,
Michiel
8 numbers for just 6 "complete" airframes and a nose section.With these numbers:
G-91T.1 MM6355 60-55
G-91T.1 MM6463 32-63
G-91T.1 MM6350 32-50
G-91T.1 MM6325 32-25
G-91T.1 MM6436 60-36
G-91T.1 MM6432 32-32
G-91T.1 MM6462 32-62
G-91T.1 MM6330 32-30
We had the following codes:
60-55 (Only front fuselage)
32-30
32-62
60-82
60-86
32-25
32-50
These are the same as in the last MAR.
So I do have the 32-63, 60-36 and 32-32
According to the MAR the MM are as following:
MM6325/32-25
MM6330/32-30
MM6350/32-50
MM6362/32-62
MM6432/60-82 (this is Melchior's 32-32)
MM6436/60-86 (this is Melchior's 60-36)
From the MM6463 (the 32-63 in Melchior's report) we only found a tail next to the G-91 with code 32-11. On this machine (with code 32-11) was painted the MM-number 6443?
Another MM-numbers of G-91's on the yard were the MM6445 (tail only) and the MM6461 (wings only).
Hopefully more people can check their logs to solve the problem with the G-91's.
Regards,
Michiel
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Michiel,
Indeed some errors in my log (also compared to the db) Since I only took pictures and wrote the serials down in one list, it was not clear wihch aircraft was where. Of 60-55 we only read the c/n (NC85) and this was the one without tailsection positioned just behind some loose wings, just aft of the special c/s G91.
The correct sequence from the ring road towards the F-104s wasindeed
(MM6355)/60-55 (ff)
MM6330/32-30
MM6362/32-62
MM6432/60-82
MM6436/60-86
MM6325/32-25
MM6350/32-50
The other 'compleet' G-91 had the tail of MM6463, the rear
fuselage carried 32-11 and was marked 7. The front fuselage/cockpit had 6463 painted and was also marked 7 while the nose was marked 9.
A picture of it from last year:
Cheers,
Indeed some errors in my log (also compared to the db) Since I only took pictures and wrote the serials down in one list, it was not clear wihch aircraft was where. Of 60-55 we only read the c/n (NC85) and this was the one without tailsection positioned just behind some loose wings, just aft of the special c/s G91.
The correct sequence from the ring road towards the F-104s wasindeed
(MM6355)/60-55 (ff)
MM6330/32-30
MM6362/32-62
MM6432/60-82
MM6436/60-86
MM6325/32-25
MM6350/32-50
The other 'compleet' G-91 had the tail of MM6463, the rear
fuselage carried 32-11 and was marked 7. The front fuselage/cockpit had 6463 painted and was also marked 7 while the nose was marked 9.
A picture of it from last year:
Cheers,
Melchior Timmers
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Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
I was in Rome last September and drove by the scrapyard.
Sitting on top of a container were two AB.47's. Does someone know their serials? And in the corner along the main street was a G-91 with a kind of graffiti paint on the tail.
Thanks in advance.
Sitting on top of a container were two AB.47's. Does someone know their serials? And in the corner along the main street was a G-91 with a kind of graffiti paint on the tail.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
From a log posted elsewhere:witje wrote:I was in Rome last September and drove by the scrapyard.
Sitting on top of a container were two AB.47's. Does someone know their serials? And in the corner along the main street was a G-91 with a kind of graffiti paint on the tail.
Thanks in advance.
MM80497 CC-21. Carabinieri c/s. Bell 47 J-3. On top of ISO container.
(MM80261) Blue/white/orange c/s coded 42 on boom, 50 on nose. Bell 47J-3. On top of ISO container.
(MM54396) G-91 T/1. Fuselage covered in graffitti. Visible on tail were remains of Black blue 75yrs c/s.
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Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
Hello,
I took my wife to Rome on 29/01/10 and on the drive from FCO to the City centre noticed a Fiat G-91 about 2 kms to the left of the road, on a hill. It looked like it was on display. Does anyone know the serial of this aircraft??
Your help is much appreciated.
Bill
I took my wife to Rome on 29/01/10 and on the drive from FCO to the City centre noticed a Fiat G-91 about 2 kms to the left of the road, on a hill. It looked like it was on display. Does anyone know the serial of this aircraft??
Your help is much appreciated.
Bill
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Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
Bill,billsamuels wrote:Hello,
I took my wife to Rome on 29/01/10 and on the drive from FCO to the City centre noticed a Fiat G-91 about 2 kms to the left of the road, on a hill. It looked like it was on display. Does anyone know the serial of this aircraft??
Your help is much appreciated.
Bill
Probably you saw MM6323/60-23 a G-91T/1 see http://www.airliners.net/photo/Italy--- ... 0627756/L/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for a picture.
Hope this helps
Greetings
Lex
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Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
Hi Lex,
That looks very similar - thank you very much.
Regards
Bill
That looks very similar - thank you very much.
Regards
Bill
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Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
03-11-2017
MM51-6576/SS-2 T-33A tail MM51-9033
MM52-7395/3-12 RF-84F
MM53-6733/50-28 F-84F-66RE
MM6355/60-55 G-91T.1
MM6443/32-11 G-91Y
MM…./ 6 G-91
MM6330/32-30 G-91T.1
MM6432/60-82 G-91T.1
MM6436/60-86 G-91T.1
MM6797/5-35 F-104S-ASA tail MM6845
MM6789/37-02 F-104S-ASA tail MM6524
MM6834/5-22 F-104S-ASA tail MM6820
MM6845/5-11 F-104S-ASA tail MM6809
MM6922/5-04 F-104S-ASA tail MM6559
MM6946/37-06 F-104S-ASA tail ????
MM80211/CC-10 AB.47J ex Carabinieri
MM80261/116 AB.47J
MM81000/GF-76 NH-500MC
MM81076/7-31 AB.212ASW
MM5029N/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM81111/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM81112/6-27 SH-3D/H
MM81113/6-28 SH-3D/H
MM81114/6-29 SH-3D/H
MM81115/6-30 SH-3D/H
MM81116/6-31 SH-3D/H
MM81185/6-34 SH-3D/H
MM81186/6-35 SH-3D/H
MM81200/6-37 SH-3D/H
MM25173/GF-03 P.166DL3-SEM2
MM25174/GF-04 P.166DL3-SEM2
there where also more helicopters and cockpits on top off containers but could not find MM numbers
MM51-6576/SS-2 T-33A tail MM51-9033
MM52-7395/3-12 RF-84F
MM53-6733/50-28 F-84F-66RE
MM6355/60-55 G-91T.1
MM6443/32-11 G-91Y
MM…./ 6 G-91
MM6330/32-30 G-91T.1
MM6432/60-82 G-91T.1
MM6436/60-86 G-91T.1
MM6797/5-35 F-104S-ASA tail MM6845
MM6789/37-02 F-104S-ASA tail MM6524
MM6834/5-22 F-104S-ASA tail MM6820
MM6845/5-11 F-104S-ASA tail MM6809
MM6922/5-04 F-104S-ASA tail MM6559
MM6946/37-06 F-104S-ASA tail ????
MM80211/CC-10 AB.47J ex Carabinieri
MM80261/116 AB.47J
MM81000/GF-76 NH-500MC
MM81076/7-31 AB.212ASW
MM5029N/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM81111/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM81112/6-27 SH-3D/H
MM81113/6-28 SH-3D/H
MM81114/6-29 SH-3D/H
MM81115/6-30 SH-3D/H
MM81116/6-31 SH-3D/H
MM81185/6-34 SH-3D/H
MM81186/6-35 SH-3D/H
MM81200/6-37 SH-3D/H
MM25173/GF-03 P.166DL3-SEM2
MM25174/GF-04 P.166DL3-SEM2
there where also more helicopters and cockpits on top off containers but could not find MM numbers
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Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
Now that's been a while since the first report.
Looks like a visit is interesting again...
Thanks for sharing!
Looks like a visit is interesting again...
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
The data section can be update nowMelchior Timmers wrote:Now that's been a while since the first report.
Looks like a visit is interesting again...
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
Thanks for the report.Stafhunter wrote:03-11-2017
MM5029N/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM81111/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM5029N does not exist. Should this be deleted, or was another SH-3 present?
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maybe is it MM5049NAndyMarden wrote:Thanks for the report.Stafhunter wrote:03-11-2017
MM5029N/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM81111/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM5029N does not exist. Should this be deleted, or was another SH-3 present?
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flown in:
F27-300M C-5
better a spotter with stepladder behind me than a spotter with 50mm in front off me
flown in:
F27-300M C-5
better a spotter with stepladder behind me than a spotter with 50mm in front off me
Re: Rome - Bufalotta (Bentivoglio scrapyard)
Supposedly it is a bit more complicated than that. MM5029N was reregistered to MM81113, with code 6-26 according to the DB on this site. The code I think is a mistake (more likely 6-28), but the serial apparantly once existed. Given that the 81113 was seen too warrants a little more checking I would think.AndyMarden wrote:Thanks for the report.Stafhunter wrote:03-11-2017
MM5029N/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM81111/6-26 SH-3D/H
MM5029N does not exist. Should this be deleted, or was another SH-3 present?
Erwin
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