Florennes (EBFS) - 2008

YOXA · Post by **YOXA** » 25 Oct 2008, 13:49

The DJ wrote:
YOXA wrote:Hello,

Can somebody confirm the C.14-68/14-40 was already at the ramp on Thursday (23rd)?Is was noted at Friday.

René
I can confirm that. Read off myself.

DJ

Thanks

FISHER01 · Post by **FISHER01** » 25 Oct 2008, 16:16

i can't find anything about an spanish holiday at 29-10-08, somebody can tell me what kind of special day it is for the Spanish?

FISHER01 · Post by **FISHER01** » 25 Oct 2008, 16:30

on thursday morning at least one was the same (c.14-63/14-36)

miked3038 · Post by **miked3038** » 25 Oct 2008, 19:48

Do you think TLP missions will take place Tues and Wed?

Due the sad crash of the Italian helo and the fact that Tues, Wed this week are CSAR days at the TLP do you guys think a TLP of some kind will take place?
We will be travelling from the UK and as such would be greatful for the opinions of some locals.
Best Wishes,
Mike

Withnail · Post by **Withnail** » 25 Oct 2008, 20:17

thanx very much

Tigerspoon · Post by **Tigerspoon** » 26 Oct 2008, 11:35

question:
is there someone who can confirm that the spanish won't fly on tuesday and wednesday next week, due to a national holiday at spain?!?!

i won't drive to florennes a third time within 5 days without catching the harrier......

thx in advance

Vinny · Post by **Vinny** » 26 Oct 2008, 14:30

also on:
http://www.idealspain.com/pages/Informa ... lidays.htm
nothing is mentioned about a national holiday.

Vincent

Post by **Key** » 26 Oct 2008, 20:13

And even if it was, it seems very odd to me that military personnell on an international course would take a day off because it is a national holiday in their home country. When in operations, you have to accept working at days like that (and usually get compensated in some way).

@ Mike, AFAIK the jets fly too on CSAR days. The Pelicans are unlikely to fly, they have been grounded I read, but the rest may continue as normal. This is my estimation.

Erik

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » 27 Oct 2008, 07:49

According to the information given by the local fireman yesterday (=source) the next week has an event in the village next door, so therfor there should be no flying activities, Also a spanish holiday, academic on monday so that leaves tuesday as flying.
Grtx,
Marc H[/quote]

Everybody is speaking about the possible Spanish holiday. But what about the event at the village next door. Is this true ? Any confirmation on that ? Are they flying or not on thursday ?

Greetings
Tom S.

SquAdmin · Post by **SquAdmin** » 27 Oct 2008, 09:12

Somehow I find it hard to believe that the TLP organization will suspend flying for an entire week just because the local village is throwing a party. If this would be the case, they would/should have scheduled this edition in another period.

For the Spaniards: I don't see any public holiday for this week in this list: http://gospain.about.com/od/beforeyougo ... lidays.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edit: just learned that, as for now, Tuesday's mission will go ahead, including the CSAR part.

Otto · Post by **Otto** » 27 Oct 2008, 12:53

And the credit goes to SGT

See you soon Patrick.....

Michiel · Post by **Michiel** » 27 Oct 2008, 13:04

I visit Florennes last Sunday (the 26th). There were only 2 EAV-8's and 1 AMX on the line. Anybody any idea for this ones.

The rest we could read but the numbers of the EAV-8 are very hard to read from the fence.

In advance thanks a lot.

Michiel Vermeer

Flanker27 · Post by **Flanker27** » 27 Oct 2008, 13:30

great update, that only leaves wednessday to be answered...

Otto · Post by **Otto** » 27 Oct 2008, 13:56

Check this topic tomorrow

Piet Luijken · Post by **Piet Luijken** » 27 Oct 2008, 15:38

The following has been published on the TLP Scramble website and remains valid. Please read and behave accordingly.

Spotting at Florennes (Opportunities & Rules)

By Sascha Jussen

Each TLP flying course normally features between 20 and 30 aircraft of different types and from various air forces. With Florennes airbase providing some excellent vantage points for watching, spotting and photographing/filming aircraft in action even from outside of the perimeter fence, it was almost inevitable that the base began attracting a growing number of enthusiasts, once the Tactical Leadership Programme established itself at Florennes in 1989.

However, as the airbase is surrounded by fields and pastures owned or leased by private farmers, the improper behaviour of a minority of aircraft enthusiasts lead to various conflicts with local residents, military personnel and Belgian police. On the military side, guards used to act very strict against spotters and photographers. This changed when in 1993 a spotter's corner was established near the runway 25 approach of the airbase. However, this corner was restricted to a small hill of mud and a few small signs leading to it. No further infrastructure was ever added and any evidence of the corner has almost disappeared now.

On the positive side, military personnel at Florennes became used to the appearance of aircraft enthusiasts around the airbase, and this attitude of "laisser-faire" has not changed, even after the terror acts of the September 11th in 2001, which lead to increased security measures at many military installations world-wide. It now seems that spotting and photographing is tolerated around Florennes by military personnel and officials, as long as enthusiasts behave according to the law and rules of "normal" social behaviour.

Although we neither can nor want to enforce any "rules" for any enthusiast visiting Florennes, we would like to recommend you to behave in a way, which will not provoke any conflict between aircraft enthusiasts and local residents, military personal, or Belgian police. Such conflicts might lead one day to a stronger response by the authorities, which could mean degradation or even the end of the viewing and photographing possibilities that are available today.

So, when you visit Florennes, we would like to recommend behaving according to the following "rules":

Please do not walk or park on any land under cultivation
Please do not throw away any garbage (please take it back home with you)
Please do not block any roads with your vehicle (Florennes is situated in a farming area, with a lot of traffic using the roads around the base)
If you use lattice gates for entering pastures, please close the gate behind you immediately
Please do not climb on or cross the perimeter fences of the airbase
Please behave according to any instruction of military guards or Belgian police

To safeguard our hobby, these rules remain valid!

Stay as close as possible to the fence while walking to the spotting corner.
Stay as close as possible to the fence while at the spotting corner.
Do not stand on any crop.
Do not cross the fields, remain close to the fence.

Please adhere to above rules to enjoy our wonderful hobby at Florennes for these last months!

Greetings

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Florennes (EBFS) - 2008

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Spotting Florennes: The Rules aka Stay Off The Crops