NEWS - Winter Timetable 2008/2009

joostvandeelen · Post by **joostvandeelen** » 23 Oct 2008, 16:17

Acc. luchtvaartnieuws.nl KLM will end services to/from Hyderabad, caused by the current economic situation and decreasing demand in Indian air traffic.

As from the upcomming wintersschedule (starting next weekend) KL will reduce to 4 weekly flights to HYD and remove this station completely from their network from the 1st of February 2009.

Regards, Mike

That means extra capacity....any ideas on how they are going to fill this gap?

Greetz

Joost

Mollie · Post by **Mollie** » 24 Oct 2008, 07:32

As per the winterschedule, LX flights to/from ZRH may occasionally be opb Edelweis A320.

Sander

SpotterNL · Post by **SpotterNL** » 25 Oct 2008, 00:14

Eastern will start flying LCY-AMS 8x daily during weekdays starting JAN09

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?id=28270" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dutchbird-757 · Post by **Dutchbird-757** » 25 Oct 2008, 04:25

More info on that;

Eastern's proposed flight schedule is as follows.

Departure LCY Arrival AMS Departure AMS Arrival LCY
06:50 09:05 07:30 07:45
08:15 10:30 09:35 09:50
10:25 12:40 11:15 11:30
12:00 14:15 13:10 13:25
14:05 16:20 14:45 15:00
15:30 17:45 16:55 17:10
17:40 19:55 18:15 18:30
19:00 21:15 20:25 20:40

Eastern plans to operate the above schedule from 4 January 2009 and that would restore competition to pre-merger levels on the LCY-AMS route.

Exactly what we need, another carrier on the route.
A more in depth read here: http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resour ... air-france" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

James · Post by **James** » 25 Oct 2008, 12:21

Dutchbird-757 wrote:More info on that;

Eastern's proposed flight schedule is as follows.

Departure LCY Arrival AMS Departure AMS Arrival LCY
06:50 09:05 07:30 07:45
08:15 10:30 09:35 09:50
10:25 12:40 11:15 11:30
12:00 14:15 13:10 13:25
14:05 16:20 14:45 15:00
15:30 17:45 16:55 17:10
17:40 19:55 18:15 18:30
19:00 21:15 20:25 20:40

Eastern plans to operate the above schedule from 4 January 2009 and that would restore competition to pre-merger levels on the LCY-AMS route.

Exactly what we need, another carrier on the route.
A more in depth read here: http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resour ... air-france" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

this is not another competitor but these flts are instead of the VLM flts!!!!

XYZ · Post by **XYZ** » 25 Oct 2008, 13:50

Eastern Airways is replacing KLM not VLM on the LCY-AMS-LCY route:

QUOTE from the UK Office of Fair Trading:
A new schedule which would allow the new entrant (Eastern) to replicate precisely the frequency previously offered by KLM during the peak periods.

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 25 Oct 2008, 19:20

XYZ wrote:Eastern Airways is replacing KLM not VLM on the LCY-AMS-LCY route.

Short explanation:

KLM/Air France has been allowed to take-over VLM but will have to lower the ammount of slots at LCY.

These slots have been transferred to Eastern AW and are most slots, previously operated by VLM.

VLM will stop operations at AMS as of December 31st.
(Date December 1st has also been mentioned.)

Some remaining slots not transferred to Eastern are going to be operated by Cityjet.

Sky · Post by **Sky** » 26 Oct 2008, 17:04

joostvandeelen wrote:
Acc. luchtvaartnieuws.nl KLM will end services to/from Hyderabad, caused by the current economic situation and decreasing demand in Indian air traffic.

As from the upcomming wintersschedule (starting next weekend) KL will reduce to 4 weekly flights to HYD and remove this station completely from their network from the 1st of February 2009.

Regards, Mike
That means extra capacity....any ideas on how they are going to fill this gap?

Greetz

Joost

KLM is increasing the capacity to IKA.

phkza · Post by **phkza** » 27 Oct 2008, 16:37

According to this article, we can expect Eastern Airways' Saab 2000's at AMS 8x per weekday for flight between AMS and LCY.

Let's see if prices will drop now that KL, BA, VG and T3 wil operate the route...

A quick look at slotcoordination confirms there are indeed al lot of slots for Eastern from January 2009...

Michel · Post by **Michel** » 27 Oct 2008, 16:52

phkza wrote:According to this article, we can expect Eastern Airways' Saab 2000's at AMS 8x per weekday for flight between AMS and LCY.

Let's see if prices will drop now that KL, BA, VG and T3 wil operate the route...

A quick look at slotcoordination confirms there are indeed al lot of slots for Eastern from January 2009...

Eastern komt ipv VLM op de route naar LCY.

toppiero · Post by **toppiero** » 27 Oct 2008, 17:02

MTOW wrote:
XYZ wrote:
- TK 8852 dep: 11:20 AMS - arr: 14:50 IST A321 DAILY - new PLANNED
- TK 1952 dep: 11:35 AMS - arr: 16:05 IST A321 DAILY
Strange timings...

het is een uur later in turkije. dus dan kloppen de tijden wel.

phkza · Post by **phkza** » 27 Oct 2008, 18:46

Michel wrote:Eastern komt ipv VLM op de route naar LCY.

Ik denk eerder 'naast' toch? Volgens mij moet de combinatie KL/VG iets krimpen, maar VG helemaal weg van AMS zie ik niet echt voor me...

Dutchbird-757 · Post by **Dutchbird-757** » 27 Oct 2008, 19:27

Voor zover ik weet zal je geen VG kist meer op AMS zien vanaf (ik meen) 4 jan 09. Dan alleen nog Eastern, KLM en BA op de LCY route.

toppiero · Post by **toppiero** » 27 Oct 2008, 19:29

ik denk juist dat je ipv jouw klm de VG zal zien op de LCY route

tonjochems · Post by **tonjochems** » 27 Oct 2008, 20:10

Leuk dan gefilosofeer over LCY... de enige juiste oplossing zie ik er niet tussen staan.... BA klopt, Eastern klopt. Even wachten nog heren... ontknoping volgt snel...is nu nog onder embargo... Keep you posted..