Florennes (EBFS) - 2007

FISHER01 · Post by **FISHER01** » 28 Nov 2007, 22:26

today a visit from a

F-16D 90-796/AV don't know if its gone?
Alpha Jet 314-UG / E23

matrix · Post by **matrix** » 29 Nov 2007, 08:32

victor wrote:Around 4.45 I saw two AlphaJets at Florennes.

Does anyone know with ones they were?

Hello,

3 AlphaJets did a touch & go at about 16:30lt, after they went to Beauvechain for a nightstop.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Nov 2007, 09:41

Erik_7Xi wrote:
Pony02 wrote:And in the 4th week 2 Italian HH-3F's for CSAR missions.
Should that not be the third week?

Third week runs from 3 till 7 December. And as you know the Pelicans should be there from 10 till 14th December.

So the mistake was on our side!!! (Sorry)...

wapo84 · Post by **wapo84** » 29 Nov 2007, 10:06

Around 4.45 I saw two AlphaJets at Florennes.
Does anyone know with ones they were?

FAF6410 and FAF6420 came in from EDDK, did a IFR training at EBFS and went to EBBE. Today they'll leave at 1300 local for LKPR with an IFR training in ETSI

theo · Post by **theo** » 02 Dec 2007, 18:43

Dear fellow spotters,
I am planning a trip to Florennes tomorrow Monday Dec 3rd. Looking at the weather forecast the weather is rather good, especially when compared with the remainder of the week.
Does anyone know if the mission of tomorrow will be affected by the hard winds (4-5 Beafort)?
Thanks for your information.
Theo

Triple X · Post by **Triple X** » 02 Dec 2007, 19:08

all flights are cancelled...

Jeremy

theo · Post by **theo** » 02 Dec 2007, 20:12

Thanks Jeremy,
But how do you know this for sure? Could you please explain your posting and especially what your source is? Or is it your personal judgement?
Kind Regards,
Theo

Richard de Florennes · Post by **Richard de Florennes** » 02 Dec 2007, 21:06

TLP normally decides after weather briefing of the day, so I do not think Jeremy's comment is based on any real information; probably just trying to mislead us

(also look at his previous comments ...)

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 02 Dec 2007, 22:16

Richard de Florennes wrote:TLP normally decides after weather briefing of the day, so I do not think Jeremy's comment is based on any real information; probably just trying to mislead us

(also look at his previous comments ...)

If so....then it's time to ban this guy from the forum.

Rob.

Richard de Florennes · Post by **Richard de Florennes** » 02 Dec 2007, 22:57

Will see tomorrow, according to http://www.kmi.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and USAS weather forecast good weather of Belgium tomorrow by midday, however; I see potential target areas restricted to Belgium itself (unrealistic), Northern France, Polygone and West Germany only, UK looks difficult, Netherlands - no idea ...

However, the best weather for the whole week and TLP not flying since last Wednesday, so good chances, wind is expected along runway axis so normally no problem (only cross winds are really dangerous ...).

Also, some additional fighters (4 x EF.18) normally should arrive tomorrow, plus support, and local flights and any chance of TLP aircraft performing DACT in case TLP mission is cancelled.

So the comment "all flights cancelled" looks very odd and strange to me. Would not recommend to rely on that. Good luck to all trying their best tomorrow!!!

Cheers, RdF

Richard de Florennes · Post by **Richard de Florennes** » 03 Dec 2007, 07:30

just been informed that the TLP INTENDS to fly today (target area in France). Final decision later today. Good luck!

(at least there is NO problem with wind, exactly on the runway axis today!)

theo · Post by **theo** » 03 Dec 2007, 09:25

Dear fellow spotters,
Based on the information of yesterday evening I had to cancel my trip to Florennes. If the posted information is not valid I would be very disappointed and would urge all people who post information to do this only if the information is reliable. Less reliable information can be posted ofcourse (not everything is black and white) but at least include in the posting the source and some indication how reliable or unreliable the posting is.
Kind Regards,
Theo

Redskin301 · Post by **Redskin301** » 03 Dec 2007, 10:47

according to the TLP site "www.florennes-as.be" tomorrow the tlp will fly a a2a refuel mission, sow maybe the chance is bigger that they will fly. I will be there tomorrow sow i hope they actually will fly

Erik_7Xi · Post by **Erik_7Xi** » 03 Dec 2007, 12:55

theo wrote:Dear fellow spotters,
Based on the information of yesterday evening I had to cancel my trip to Florennes. If the posted information is not valid I would be very disappointed and would urge all people who post information to do this only if the information is reliable. Less reliable information can be posted ofcourse (not everything is black and white) but at least include in the posting the source and some indication how reliable or unreliable the posting is.
Kind Regards,
Theo

Just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it true. Unless extreme weather is expected, I have never seen flight ops being cancelled 24 hours a head just because of the weather.

Flight ops always gathers the most actual weather data when preparing the flight that morning and only then the mission commander decides to postpone, change or cancel the fragged mission.

patrick dirksen · Post by **patrick dirksen** » 03 Dec 2007, 14:53

All true, but still a "joke" like the one Jeremy makes here is no good!

Those kind of replies can only cause confusion to say the least.

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