The Dutch airliner delivery thread

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 05 May 2006, 11:54

akarssen wrote: The Boeing web site has been updated and it shows that these three have been converted into 300ER! The rumour turned out to be true!

Very nice website!

Thanks for the info.

List updated.

Chris.

akarssen · Post by **akarssen** » 05 May 2006, 16:12

RCV wrote:
E-R-I-C wrote:
akarssen wrote: The Boeing web site has been updated and it shows that these three have been converted into 300ER! The rumour turned out to be true!
Waar kan ik dat vinden op de boeing site?

Eric
http://active.boeing.com/commercial/ord ... eid=m15524" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For a more specific report go to User Defined Reports
http://active.boeing.com//commercial/or ... eid=m15527

Select January 2005 through April 2006; Customer KLM; model 777; order date and you will get
Orders for January 2005 through April 2006
Customer Name Country Region Model Engine Order Date Total
KLM - Royal Dutch Airlines Netherlands Europe 777-300ER GE 11-Aug-2005 1
KLM - Royal Dutch Airlines Netherlands Europe 777-300ER GE 23-Nov-2005 2
Total 3

Both orders were already listed as 777-200ER (first as Unidentified Customer and KLM since December) but recently changed into 300ER

Nozem · Post by **Nozem** » 12 May 2006, 15:15

There's another blue bird spotted!!!

PH-BXU

Greetings Ton

richarduk · Post by **richarduk** » 12 May 2006, 15:45

That must be imminent for delivery if it is wearing its NL registration. Anyone got any date/time info yet? Also, is the remaining 738 that Transavia are getting on lease still due on May 21st?

Post by **gatso76** » 12 May 2006, 16:45

richarduk wrote:That must be imminent for delivery if it is wearing its NL registration. Anyone got any date/time info yet? Also, is the remaining 738 that Transavia are getting on lease still due on May 21st?

According CISS:

Arr. Amsterdam-Schiphol STA 0900 Lt. B738 PH-BXU tomorrow, 13th of May 2006 as 'KL7451' from BFI and YYR.

United · Post by **United** » 12 May 2006, 16:47

No winglets. Would have been nice.

United

Lars · Post by **Lars** » 12 May 2006, 17:53

they changed the color of the aircrafts name from white to blue..
i liked the white more..

T7 · Post by T7 » 13 May 2006, 01:45

gatso76 wrote:
richarduk wrote:That must be imminent for delivery if it is wearing its NL registration. Anyone got any date/time info yet? Also, is the remaining 738 that Transavia are getting on lease still due on May 21st?
According CISS:

Arr. Amsterdam-Schiphol STA 0900 Lt. B738 PH-BXU tomorrow, 13th of May 2006 as 'KL7451' from BFI and YYR.

Delayed till 14th May 0555lt..

Rgds
Ab

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 29 May 2006, 11:25

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May.26th: updated with TFL info.
May.29th: updated with Interstate A/L info.

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AMS/EHAM

KLM Cityhopper

Fokker 100:
PH-OFL - active, white c/s; to be painted. (11444)
PH-OFM - active (11475)
PH-OFN - active (11477)

=> PH-OFL is currently operated by Air Express.

KLM

Boeing 737-800:
PH-BXU - (33028) active, B737-8BK [CIT]
PH-BXx - dd 2007

PH-HZK l/f Transavia untill 03-2007
PH-HZM l/f Transavia untill 03-2007

Airbus A330-200:
PH-AOD - active (738)
PH-AOE - Aug 2006 (770)
PH-AOF - Dec 2006 (811)
PH-AOH - Feb 2007 [ILFC]
PH-AOI - Mar 2007 [ILFC]

Boeing 777-200ER:
PH-BQN - active (32720) [ILFC]
PH-BQO - Jan 2007 (35295) [ILFC]
PH-BQP - Apr 2007 (32721) [ILFC]

Boeing 777-300ER:
PH-BQR - Feb 2008 (35671)
PH-BQS - Mar 2008
PH-BQT - Jun 2009

unconfirmed reports state first 773 to be delivered in 2007 already.

Boeing 744F:
PH-CKD - Jan 2007 (35233)

A thread on the aviationphotos forum mentions some Boeing 767 info:

PH-BZD exit 27 Mar 2006 to Neos.
PH-BZF exit 1st May 2006 to Aeroflot.
PH-BZG exit 3rd Jun 2006 to Aeroflot.

poereng wrote: KLM is working on a change in phase-out planning for the last 5 aircraft (BZH, BZI, BZK, BZM, BZO).

Planning is now to return to ILFC:
- 1x 767 in nov06
- 2x 767 in jan07
- 2x 767 in mar07

So before the end of march 2007 the KLM Boeing 767 is history....

No next operator known yet. Each aircraft will stop commercial operation about 4 weeks before return to ILFC.

Transavia

Boeing 737-800:
PH-HZx - 2007

PH-HZQ (32354 ex ZS-SJH) active, leased from South African.
PH-HZR (32693) active, leased from SpiceJet (ex BFI).
PH-HZU (32358 ex ZS-SJP) active, leased from South African.
PH-HZZ (32356 ex ZS-SJL) active, leased from South African.

Martinair

Boeing 747-412BCF:
PH-MPP - Oct 2006 (24061)
PH-xxx - 2007 (24066)
PH-xxx - 2007 (24226)
PH-xxx - early 2008 (24975)

(NOTE: all are listed as 'Boeing Converted Freighters', conversion will take place at TAECO in Xiamen (China).)

Airbus A320:
PH-xxx - dd?
EC-HZU - (1578) leased summer 2006 from Iberworld.

Arkefly

Airbus A320:
EC-JRU - (1597) leased summer 2006 from Iberworld.

Airbus A321:
G-MIDM - (1207) Due: Jun06, leased summer 2006 from bmi ?
details need confirmation.

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MST/EHBK:

Interstate Airlines

*Decided to post the current and future fleet-plans to give a complete overview.

ATR42:
PH-ISA - active (532)
PH-ISB - (107) dd Jun 2006
PH-ISC - (tbc) dd Aug 2006
msn's for ISB & ISC tbc.

B737-500:
LY-AZX - operates in Italy.

A300-B4F:
PH-RST (212) dd Jul 2006
PH-xxx (tbc) dd Oct 2006

B747-200F:
xx-xxx - Dec 2005
this type not confirmed by company.

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On the aviationphotos forum, there's also a list with 'color' updates, etc.
The thread can be found here.

Bye, Chris.

akarssen · Post by **akarssen** » 30 May 2006, 09:44

=> PH-OFL is currently operated by Air Express.

Who is Air Express? European Air Express EAE??

on order (?) ex Regional:

Fokker 100:

Regional recently acquired two exEU Jet Fokker 100s:
F-GPXL (11290)
F-GPXM (11296)

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 30 May 2006, 12:08

akarssen wrote:
=> PH-OFL is currently operated by Air Express.
Who is Air Express? European Air Express EAE??

If i'm correct it's a Swedish company.

Thanks for the additional info.

Chris.

mr. V · Post by **mr. V** » 30 May 2006, 16:04

akarssen wrote: Air Regional recently acquired two exEU Jet Fokker 100s:
F-GPXL (11290)
F-GPXM (11296)

Guess that means they'll be hanging on their own F70s and F100s for a while, so they won't be coming to KLM in the near future?

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 30 May 2006, 18:03

mr. V wrote:
akarssen wrote: Air Regional recently acquired two exEU Jet Fokker 100s:
F-GPXL (11290)
F-GPXM (11296)
Guess that means they'll be hanging on their own F70s and F100s for a while, so they won't be coming to KLM in the near future?

Don't quite know what the current status is, regarding that idea.
I'll adjust the list, untill we know more.

Chris.

flying_kiwi · Post by **flying_kiwi** » 30 May 2006, 20:04

cHabu wrote: If i'm correct it's a Swedish company.

Correct. As I understand it, Cityhopper are a bit short on crews. However they can't hire in pilots to cover the shortage until they manage to train more, because they would run afoul of the unions. So they dry lease the aircraft to Air Express, and then wet lease it back. Hey presto, problem solved!

Regards,
Yorden

akarssen · Post by **akarssen** » 31 May 2006, 10:21

flying_kiwi wrote:Correct. As I understand it, Cityhopper are a bit short on crews. However they can't hire in pilots to cover the shortage until they manage to train more, because they would run afoul of the unions. So they dry lease the aircraft to Air Express, and then wet lease it back. Hey presto, problem solved!

Thanks all for the info; it's a clever solution indeed. Any idea when they will have sufficient crew?
And when will they have time to actually paint the aircraft?

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