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Re: F-35 Lightning II developments

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Starfighter_F-104G wrote: 16 Jan 2025, 19:02
Hans van Herk wrote: 16 Jan 2025, 15:37
Starfighter_F-104G wrote: 14 Jan 2025, 22:58 F-35A AM-47 22-5823 5823 f/f 14-01-2025
Nice,
the final six for Norway.
Is the FY correct? I thought these are Lot 16, so should be FY23.

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FY already explained
Just scrolled back to April 2024, indeed Lot 15 and Lot 16 both FY22.
Check.

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BK-36, ZM170 delivered as Hustler 91 to Eglin, Jan 16, 2025. Not positive if this was a fuel stop enroute to the east coast for further ferry. Time will tell.
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Re: F-35 Lightning II developments

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AM-49, 5825 (22-5825) is active as well. Noted Jan 21, 2025. Was not a first flight.
AM-51, 5827 (22-5827) first flight Jan 21, 2025.
AS-41, 966 (22-5767) first flight Jan 21, 2025.
They tried to fly AS-40, 42, and 43 as well but all had a ground abort.

Tally.
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tally wrote: 21 Jan 2025, 16:12 AM-47, 5827 (22-5827) first flight Jan 21, 2025.
AM-47, 5827?? Is 5823 as far as I know and first flight already on January 14th.

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Bjorn wrote: 21 Jan 2025, 19:23
tally wrote: 21 Jan 2025, 16:12 AM-47, 5827 (22-5827) first flight Jan 21, 2025.
AM-47, 5827?? Is 5823 as far as I know and first flight already on January 14th.

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Must be AM-51. AM-47 flew this morning as well so a mix up on my end.
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tally wrote: 21 Jan 2025, 16:12 AM-49, 5825 (22-5825) is active as well. Noted Jan 21, 2025. Was not a first flight.
AM-51, 5827 (22-5827) first flight Jan 21, 2025.
AS-41, 966 (22-5767) first flight Jan 21, 2025.
They tried to fly AS-40, 42, and 43 as well but all had a ground abort.

Tally.
Why?
What went wrong with the FF of AS-40/42/43?
They were stored for long time after exiting the production line...
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With the confirmation of the IDF aircraft we can now make a resume of Lot15 for the F-35A

22-5682 - 22-5729 USAF (46 aircraft)
22-5730 - 22-5738 RAAF A35-064 - A35-072 (9 aircraft)
22-5739 - 22-5745 RDAF L-011 - L-017 (7 aircraft)
22-5746 - 22-5751 NOW 5746 - 5751 (6 aircraft)
22-5752 - 22-5758 AMI MM7373 - MM7379 (7 aircraft)
22-5759 - 22-5761 RNLAF F-035 - F-037 (3 aircraft)
22-5762 - 22-5765 BAF FL-001 - FL-004 (4 aircraft)
22-5766 - 22-5771 IDF/AF 963 - 97. (6 aircraft, F-35I)
22-5772 - 22-5777 JASDF 39-8735 - 49-8740 (6 aircraft)
Total F-35A produced in lot15: 46+9+7+6+7+3+4+6+6 = 94 aircraft

For the F-35B and F-35C I have some uncertainty about aircraft involved in lot15 (previous announcement were for 3x US F-35B and 10x F-35C)
F-35B:
170530 - 170533 (4 aircraft) USMC
170534 - 170535 (2 aircraft) UK as ZM170/171
170536 - 170537 (2 aircraft) ANI as MM7457/MM7458

F-35C
170499 - 170502 USN/USMC 4 aircraft
Total aircraft in lot 15
+94+8+4 = 106 aircraft

Lot16
More or less confirmed F-35A/F-35I:
22-5778 - 22-5814 USAF (37 aircraft)
22-5815 - 22-5822 Polish AF 3501 - 3504 and Belgium AF FL-005 - FL-008 8 aircraft
22-5823 - 22-5828 NOW 5823 - 5828 (6 aircraft)
22-5829 - 22-5835 AMI MM7380-MM7386? (7 aircraft)
22-5836 - 22-5844 RNLAF F-038 - F-046 (9 aircraft)
22-.... - 22-.... RDAF L-018 - L-022 (5 aircraft)
22-.... - 22-.... IDF/AF 97. - 9.. (5 aircraft)
22-5946 - 22-5956 USAF (11 aircraft)
Total F-35A prodcued in lot16: 37+8+6+7+9+5+5+11 = 88 aircraft?

F-35C
170538 - 170563 (26 aircraft)

F-35B
170564 - 170571 (8 aircraft)
170572 - 170575 BX-01 - BX-04 (4 aircraft)
170576 - 170579 ZM172 - ZM175 (4 aircraft)
Total aircraft in Lot16
88+26+16 = 130 aircraft

Anyane bale to confirm the Lot15/16 serials for the F-35B/C and the gap between 22-5844 and 22-5946 (lot17??)
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22-5759 - 22-5762 RNLAF F-035 - F-037 (3 aircraft)
5759
5760
5761
5762
These are 4 numbers instead of 3
22-5763 - 22-5765 BAF FL-001 - FL-004 (4 aircraft)
These are 3 numbers
So 5762 is Belgium FL-001?
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Canberra TT.18 wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 13:19
22-5759 - 22-5762 RNLAF F-035 - F-037 (3 aircraft)
5759
5760
5761
5762
These are 4 numbers instead of 3
22-5763 - 22-5765 BAF FL-001 - FL-004 (4 aircraft)
These are 3 numbers
So 5762 is Belgium FL-001?
yes Dutch 22-5759 - 22-5761 and Belgium 22-5762 - 5765
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wamovements wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 09:17 Anyane bale to confirm ... the gap between 22-5844 and 22-5946 (lot17??)
Some guessing here. But.......
Last FY22 is 5854 with those 'odd' USAF 22-5946/22/5956 birds. 11 added by Congress to Lot 16 to make up a total of 48.
We already know that the Dutch birds from Lot 17 are 23-5940/23-5945. This order was placed afterwards so these make up the last of FY23.
That means a gap of 84 birds. Count all the other orders from the other countries and I think this will add up not 100%, but almost.

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Re: F-35 Lightning II developments

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Bjorn wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 17:04
wamovements wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 09:17 Anyane bale to confirm ... the gap between 22-5844 and 22-5946 (lot17??)
Some guessing here. But.......
Last FY22 is 5854 with those 'odd' USAF 22-5946/22/5956 birds. 11 added by Congress to Lot 16 to make up a total of 48.
We already know that the Dutch birds from Lot 17 are 23-5940/23-5945. This order was placed afterwards so these make up the last of FY23.
That means a gap of 84 birds. Count all the other orders from the other countries and I think this will add up not 100%, but almost.

Greets,
Bjorn,

Just to clarify, the Dutch examples are also FY22 and the whole LOT is FY22, not 23.

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wamovements wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 09:17 With the confirmation of the IDF aircraft we can now make a resume of Lot15 for the F-35A

22-5682 - 22-5729 USAF (46 aircraft)
22-5730 - 22-5738 RAAF A35-064 - A35-072 (9 aircraft)
22-5739 - 22-5745 RDAF L-011 - L-017 (7 aircraft)
22-5746 - 22-5751 NOW 5746 - 5751 (6 aircraft)
22-5752 - 22-5758 AMI MM7373 - MM7379 (7 aircraft)
22-5759 - 22-5761 RNLAF F-035 - F-037 (3 aircraft)
22-5762 - 22-5765 BAF FL-001 - FL-004 (4 aircraft)
22-5766 - 22-5771 IDF/AF 963 - 97. (6 aircraft, F-35I)
22-5772 - 22-5777 JASDF 39-8735 - 49-8740 (6 aircraft)
Total F-35A produced in lot15: 46+9+7+6+7+3+4+6+6 = 94 aircraft
22-5682 to 5729 is 48 aircraft bringing the total to 96
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gluefan1 wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 09:02
tally wrote: 21 Jan 2025, 16:12 AM-49, 5825 (22-5825) is active as well. Noted Jan 21, 2025. Was not a first flight.
AM-51, 5827 (22-5827) first flight Jan 21, 2025.
AS-41, 966 (22-5767) first flight Jan 21, 2025.
They tried to fly AS-40, 42, and 43 as well but all had a ground abort.

Tally.
Why?
What went wrong with the FF of AS-40/42/43?
They were stored for long time after exiting the production line...
Just normal squawks prior to first flight.
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Re: F-35 Lightning II developments

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REPETITA IUVANT - FOLLOW THE CONTRACT
Lot 15 was issued on Dec 2022 and modified three time
Not to mention that they have included some aircraft financed in FY19
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falcx wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 21:09
Bjorn,

Just to clarify, the Dutch examples are also FY22 and the whole LOT is FY22, not 23.

Kind Regards.
Lot 15 and 16 are FY22 yes. Lot 17 is (as far as I know) FY23. So you asked about the gap. The gap is lot 17 and so FY23. Those 11 USAF birds were added to Lot 16 and came after the whole shabbang serial whise, but are FY22 since they are lot 16.

If my info about lot 17 is incorrect then the entire gap might by FY22 yes. But that doesn't change the serial sequence.

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