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J-013 appears to be returned from SABCA as it is now flying low over the Netherlands as NAF624 and originating from Charleroi, according ADS-B
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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JPS wrote: ↑02 Aug 2024, 17:04 Thanks again for the updates.

The Dutch Minister of Defence announced that the 18 F-16's allocated to the EFTC in Romania will remain available until the end of 2025. In addition it was mentioned that the announced 24 ex-Dutch F-16 for the Ukraine will include €450 million worth of ammunition.

Although not confirmed several reports indicate that Ukraine received 6 ex-Dutch F-16's, likely out of the arsenal of the EFTC based at Fetesti. First sightings of F-16's above Ukraine without markings were shared on social media:

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The J-020 went for maintenance to SABCA on July 2nd, with the J-016 returning to Volkel on the same day.

Please find the updates for July below in red:

Volkel 312sq (20 x F-16AM)
J-003 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-005 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-006 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-008 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2024
J-011 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2024
J-013 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 maintenance SABCA 31may2024
J-014 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-015 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-016 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2024
J-017 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2024
J-020 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2024 maintenance SABCA 2jul2024
J-060 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-062 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2024
J-146 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-197 F-16AM 312sq Farewell Falcon 45 Years c/s 2024
J-367 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-512 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2024
J-514 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 maintenance SABCA 6may 2024
J-515 F-16AM 312sq full colour badge and North Brabantian tailband 2024
J-641 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2024

Fetesti EFTC (7 x F-16AM + 7 x F-16BM)
J-004 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-010 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel, registration with outline 2024 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-018 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-019 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-064 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-067 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-201 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-209 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi
J-210 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-366 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-368 F-16BM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-369 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi
J-646 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-882 F-16BM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel, registration with outline 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi

SABCA stored (8 x F-16AM)
J-021 F-16AM ex 312sq full color badge 312sq and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2023 SABCA Charleroi 14dec2023, wfu 9nov2022
J-055 F-16AM ex 312sq full color badge and partial toned down North Brabantian tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 22feb2024
J-136 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 25jan2024, wfu 8dec2023
J-144 F-16AM ex 312sq Cluster afstoot badge and full color KLu roundel, no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 21mar2024, wfu 13apr2022, last testflight 18oct2022
J-508 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 25jan2024
J-509 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2023 SABCA Charleroi 23feb2023, wfu 6sep2022, last testflight 14dec2023
J-516 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 15feb2024
J-644 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge 312sq and North Brabantian tailband 2023 SABCA Charleroi 23mar2023, wfu 24oct2022
016 flew again on 8/8/24, no tailband, no tailbadge, sticker as reg, translation block under canopy removed
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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wamovements wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 22:41 J-369/AZ also still operational with 148th FS
Not with the 148th, but the ‘EFTC’ in Romania!
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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GoldenPlane wrote: ↑09 Aug 2024, 18:08
wamovements wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 22:41 J-369/AZ also still operational with 148th FS
Not with the 148th, but the ‘EFTC’ in Romania!
Was already in the July update:

Fetesti EFTC (7 x F-16AM + 7 x F-16BM)
J-004 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-010 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel, registration with outline 2024 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-018 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-019 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-064 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-067 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-201 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-209 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi
J-210 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-366 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-368 F-16BM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-369 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi
J-646 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-882 F-16BM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel, registration with outline 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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GoldenPlane wrote: ↑09 Aug 2024, 18:08
wamovements wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 22:41 J-369/AZ also still operational with 148th FS
Not with the 148th, but the ‘EFTC’ in Romania!
Logic to quote a message from 2019 as not correct in 2024 ;-)
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Thanks for the updates.

It seems that there are no ex-Dutch F-16's delivered to Ukraine yet. From images, news articles, and media presentation it looks like 6 ex Danish examples and some instructional airframes from AMARG have been delivered. However if you take the F-16's returning from SABCA to 312sq into account without Dutch texts on the plane and the registration only on stickers it seems that deliveries are likely to be from ex 312sq airframes. Also an airframe without any markings was seen on Volkel.

Image Picture by Evelakes Evers on Facebook

The J-060 went for maintenance to SABCA on August 7th, with the J-013 returning to Volkel on the same day with only a registration stickers and a full colour KLu roundel.

Please find the updates for August below in red:

Volkel 312sq (20 x F-16AM)
J-003 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-005 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-006 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-008 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2024
J-011 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2024
J-013 F-16AM 312sq registration sticker, no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024
J-014 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-015 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-016 F-16AM 312sq registration sticker, no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024
J-017 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2024
J-020 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2024 maintenance SABCA 2jul2024
J-060 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 maintenance SABCA 7aug2024
J-062 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2024
J-146 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-197 F-16AM 312sq Farewell Falcon 45 Years c/s 2024
J-367 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024
J-512 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2024
J-514 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 maintenance SABCA 6may 2024
J-515 F-16AM 312sq full colour badge and North Brabantian tailband 2024
J-641 F-16AM 312sq registration sticker, full color badge and no tailband 2024

Fetesti EFTC (7 x F-16AM + 7 x F-16BM)
J-004 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-010 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel, registration with outline 2024 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-018 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-019 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-064 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-067 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-201 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-209 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi
J-210 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-366 F-16AM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2023 d/d EFTC 7nov2023 from Charleroi
J-368 F-16BM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 17apr2024 from Charleroi
J-369 F-16BM EFTC no markings except toned down KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi
J-646 F-16AM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel 2024 d/d EFTC 19jun2024 from Charleroi
J-882 F-16BM EFTC no markings except full colour KLu roundel, registration with outline 2024 d/d EFTC 19mar2024 from Charleroi

SABCA stored (8 x F-16AM)
J-021 F-16AM ex 312sq full color badge 312sq and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2023 SABCA Charleroi 14dec2023, wfu 9nov2022
J-055 F-16AM ex 312sq full color badge and partial toned down North Brabantian tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 22feb2024
J-136 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 25jan2024, wfu 8dec2023
J-144 F-16AM ex 312sq Cluster afstoot badge and full color KLu roundel, no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 21mar2024, wfu 13apr2022, last testflight 18oct2022
J-508 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 25jan2024
J-509 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2023 SABCA Charleroi 23feb2023, wfu 6sep2022, last testflight 14dec2023
J-516 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2024 SABCA Charleroi 15feb2024
J-644 F-16AM ex 312sq toned down badge 312sq and North Brabantian tailband 2023 SABCA Charleroi 23mar2023, wfu 24oct2022
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J-011 flew to SABCA this morning as NAF312 (4/9/24)
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More additions:
J-060 to SABCA for maintenence 7/8/24
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...J-020 flying back to Volkel from SABCA Charleroi this Thursday 12 September 2024....
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=480413 .
November 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
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J-882 showing on adsb as NAF-312, disappears after 1 min.
But on the scramble list the 882 is in Romania
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=48 ... 2024-09-18
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Desley wrote: ↑18 Sep 2024, 16:44 J-882 showing on adsb as NAF-312, disappears after 1 min.
But on the scramble list the 882 is in Romania
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=48 ... 2024-09-18
Miscode, was a single seater, unknown to me which reg tho

Further, on 16-9-2024 6 unknown registrations departed to Minsk, Poland from Volkel
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But this f16 was from charleroi, today only the J-013 and J-062 flying from volkel
On instagram 312 texted 2 FCF todays
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Desley wrote: ↑18 Sep 2024, 20:02 But this f16 was from charleroi, today only the J-013 and J-062 flying from volkel
On instagram 312 texted 2 FCF todays

The 368 was a miscoded single seater from Charleroi being the J-509, not from Volkel itself
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https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=480499
NAF312
Hex: 480499 T
Reg.:J-644
Squawk:1470
Airborne out of Charleroi, currently flying over Volkel.....
November 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
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Stratofreighter wrote: ↑19 Sep 2024, 14:15 https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=480499
NAF312
Hex: 480499 T
Reg.:J-644
Squawk:1470
Airborne out of Charleroi, currently flying over Volkel.....
...aircraft landed back at Charleroi Gosselies...
November 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
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