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3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

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This topic is aimed to get a picture of 3rd CAB moving out of Europe, which airfields are used to refuel and which embarkation ports are being used for the move back to Georgia (USA):
Please post your logs and ADSB-sightings here for all to follow to get the picture right.

The following UH/HH-60M helicopters have left Constanta (Romania) from 09:00AM local time, source ADS-B:
11-20365 stopped at Baneasa - continues North
11-20389 stopped at Baneasa - continues North
xx-21016 stopped at Baneasa - continues North
11-20331 to the North - West
xx-20357 to the North - West
11-20358 to the North - West
11-20417 to the North - West
12-20450 to the North
12-20457 to the North - West
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Re: 3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

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I fully agree on a topic like this. But in this case they all fly LRCK/ Constanta > LRBS/ Baneasa > LRSB/ Sibiu and back again to either LRCK direct, or via Baneasa.
So this doesn't seem to be the first part of the return yet.
I would expect all the Constanta helipopters to fly back to Volos/ Greece for embarkation over there.
One error, 11-20331 is showing incorrect on ADSB, this must be 11-20360 (also shown in the callsign box, and fit's in great with the other hexcodes)
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Re: 3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

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AK01, thanks very much!

We will probably see some more "false positives" in the topic over the next few weeks.
It would be excellent if we can weed them out from the mainstream going back to CONUS, which helps to keep the picture clear.

So please do not be discouraged to post what you see!
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Re: 3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

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Indeed, better some false hits than big surprises :-)
Of course they can be participating in an exercise, doing a cross-country sortie, whatever.

Three are now airbourne from Sibiu, heading NW in the direction of Hungary at 10.000ft.
12-20457 AE5362
11-20358 AE51AA
11-20417 AE51CD

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EvD wrote:Indeed, better some false hits than big surprises :-)
Of course they can be participating in an exercise, doing a cross-country sortie, whatever.

Three are now airbourne from Sibiu, heading NW in the direction of Hungary at 10.000ft.
12-20457 AE5362
11-20358 AE51AA
11-20417 AE51CD

best regards,
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All 12 inbound to Papa, most likely tomorrow on to Illesheim to join the rest for the trip to Eindhoven next week.
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Flightplan Romatsa has now also changed the destinations for at least 7 of them to Papa. So good news!
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AK01 wrote:Flightplan Romatsa has now also changed the destinations for at least 7 of them to Papa. So good news!
All of the 3rd CAB elements will return via NL! So it's looking good for Eindhoven! Source:
https://www.facebook.com/3rdCAB/
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Re: 3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

Post by r.e.hendriks »

A little bird whispered to me, that 77 3CAB helicopters are expected at Eindhoven.

Edit: the bird was lying... only 28 via Eindhoven.
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Re: 3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

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3rd CAB is also clear on their facebook page:

https://nl-nl.facebook.com/3rdCAB/

Marne Air is on the move!

This week, our helicopters located in Romania and Poland will be flying to Illesheim, Germany as the first leg of their journey from the fort to the port! From there, they’ll be moving to the Netherlands to conduct port operations in order to be shipped back to the United States.
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r.e.hendriks wrote:A little bird whispered to me, that 77 3CAB helicopters are expected at Eindhoven.
Only 37 arrived at Zeebrugge last year. Did the rest disembark elsewhere?
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Yes, the others went to Volos in Greece
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Re: 3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

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Yes, that is correct, in Volos (Greece) 38 were unloaded, and some may have arrived by air (C-5).
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Re: 3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

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I have been able to id the following 17 as arrivals in Volos last October, so another 21 to go. Guess mainly AH64's and CH47's which don't seem to use mode-s, or don't have it?
Any additions welcome.
11-20357 UH60M 4-3AVN AE51A9
11-20358 UH60M 4-3AVN AE51AA
11-20360 UH60M 4-3AVN AE51AC
11-20365 UH60M 4-3AVN AE51B1
11-20389 UH60M 4-3AVN AE51BD
11-20397 UH60M 4-3AVN AE51C4
11-20416 UH60M 4-3AVN AE51CC
11-20417 UH60M 4-3AVN AE51CD
11-20428 UH60M 4-3AVN AE5382
11-20506 HH60M C/2-3AVN AE5391
12-20450 UH60M 4-3AVN AE5361
12-20455 UH60M 4-3AVN AE5360
12-20457 UH60M 4-3AVN AE5362
12-20458 UH60M 4-3AVN AE5369
12-20461 UH60M 4-3AVN AE5372
14-20679 HH60M 2-3AVN AE5797
18-21016 HH60M C/2-3AVN AE621C
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Re: 3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

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11-20365
11-20389
xx-21016
11-20506
heading north west from Sibiu (Romania) at 08:30AM LT time, at an altitude of around 10,000 ft, source ADS-B

they do not seem to be heading for Papa (Hungary) but heading north. They may avoid crossing Austria as a non-NATO member.
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These four seem to refuel at Debrecen International Airport in Hungary.
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