Log Florida November 2010 - Propliners and Old Jets.
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Log Florida November 2010 - Propliners and Old Jets.
Log Florida November 2010
Here's a few Propliner and Old Jet shots from various airports in Florida.
Sorry for the poor quality of some of the photos. The heat haze was quite challenging when photographing at 500mm… All photos are hosted at Flickr and can be viewed here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/65309169@N ... 170768083/
02 NOV 2010 X04 / Orlando Apopka / Apopka, FL
CV-240 N1022C Trans Florida Airlines c/s, Pan Am logo on tail.
04 NOV 2010 Daytona Beach IAP
N905GA CV580, complete
N278MA F27, dismantled
No signs of Convairs CV240 N295M, N1020C, N7761, N12905, N22913. Broken up or moved??
04 NOV2010 New Smyrna Beach KEVB
N600NA DC-3, parked at American Aero Services
Unknown fuselage part being restored/repainted. Type, ID etc?
No signs of DHC-4 N112CH and N6154T or HU-16 N16CA and N16ZE. Broken up or moved??
04 NOV 2010 Titusville KTIX
N3239T DC-3 “Tico Belle”.
HR-ALK C-123, missing various parts. Rebuild to airworthy status is reportedly in progress.
?? DHC-4 cockpit/front fuselage section, standing next to the C-123.
(Sorry for the fence)
Also of specific interest was this recent addition to the VALIANT AIR COMMAND WARBIRD MUSEUM; A Rockwell OV-10G Bronco N15453 (155409)
Remains of N8040L DC-3 (used for the rebuild of N3239T) have been parted out and removed.
No signs of DC-3 NC28340.
04 NOV 2010 Sanford Orlando KSFB
N9338 DC-9 NWA
N1332U DC-9 NWA
N8925E DC-9 NWA
N8923E DC-9 NWA
?? DC-10 a/w, “141” on nose-wheel door. Likely N141WE ex-Centurion.
N8926E DC-9 NWA
?? A300 DHL
YV-154T B727 DHL
N279AX DC-10 Centurion
06 NOV 2010 Ft. Pierce KFPR
N300MF DC-3 MFI Missionary Flights International
N200MF DC-3TP MFI Missionary Flights International
N10GN HU-16
N7927 HU-16
N117FB HU-16 a/w
N416SB DH-114 Heron 2X Norstar
N400MF DC-3 was away on airshow work.
N500MF DC-3TP (ex-N376AS) will join the MFI fleet by early 2011.
07+10 NOV 2010 Opa Locka KOPF
N150PA CV240 A/W
N145GT C131
N41527 CV440 Miami Air Lease
N584E CV580 A/W, being worked on. Will go to a new owner in Mexico.
N323CF CV440
N460WA C-54
N70BF DC-6
N381AA DC-7B AA C/S
N836D DC-7B HFF Eastern C/S
N12BA DC-3
N437GB DC-3
N705GB DC-3
N471CM Beech 18
YV-1854 DC-3
N681DG C123
N6NA Beech 18
N32TN DC-3S
N99800 Beech 18 Red C/S
N140JR DC-3
N147JR CV240 TolAir
N18R Beech 18
N587LM DC-3S Gateway
UK-12005 AN-12 SRX
UK-11418 AN-12 SRX
UK-12002 AN-12 SRX
UK-26001 AN26 Avialeasing
UR-46838 AN26 Med Air
N49115 HU-16
N265ES HU-16
N919RW DC-9 Dominicana
N927RC DC-9 NWA basic C/S
PR-SPC B727 SP Cargo Air
N450ML DC10 Arrow
N524MD DC10 Arrow
N526MD DC10 Arrow
N478CT DC10 Arrow
N607GC DC10 Gemini
N181AQ B763 Gulf Air
TU-TAW B737 NEBA
N741DH B727 A/W
N199AJ B727
N400RG B727 MBI
N697CA B727 Champion
N696CA B727
S2-AEK DC-8
JZ-KCV B747 Air Plus Comet
XA-UNR B737 Magni
PR-GLQ B737 GOL
PR-GLE B737 GOL
PR-GLN B737 GOL
N501UW B737
XA-UMP B737
N275MD Jetstar
08+10 NOV 2010 Ft Lauderdale Executive KFXE
N8WJ DC-3
N502DD Beech 18
?? Beech 18, green c/s.
N9690R Beech 18 Aztec Airways
N737SW Beech 18 Aztec Airways
N787WH B737 “Aero Toy Store”
Unknown ID and type??
09NOV 2010 Ft Lauderdale KFLL
N911E Beech 18
N961GP Beech 18, faded “K&K Aircraft” titles
N8476H Beech 18
N80GB Shorts SC-7 Skyvan, GB Airlink
N30GB Beech 18
4 X YS-11, stored.
N15MA DC-3, didn´t appear to be doing much flying.
Here's a few Propliner and Old Jet shots from various airports in Florida.
Sorry for the poor quality of some of the photos. The heat haze was quite challenging when photographing at 500mm… All photos are hosted at Flickr and can be viewed here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/65309169@N ... 170768083/
02 NOV 2010 X04 / Orlando Apopka / Apopka, FL
CV-240 N1022C Trans Florida Airlines c/s, Pan Am logo on tail.
04 NOV 2010 Daytona Beach IAP
N905GA CV580, complete
N278MA F27, dismantled
No signs of Convairs CV240 N295M, N1020C, N7761, N12905, N22913. Broken up or moved??
04 NOV2010 New Smyrna Beach KEVB
N600NA DC-3, parked at American Aero Services
Unknown fuselage part being restored/repainted. Type, ID etc?
No signs of DHC-4 N112CH and N6154T or HU-16 N16CA and N16ZE. Broken up or moved??
04 NOV 2010 Titusville KTIX
N3239T DC-3 “Tico Belle”.
HR-ALK C-123, missing various parts. Rebuild to airworthy status is reportedly in progress.
?? DHC-4 cockpit/front fuselage section, standing next to the C-123.
(Sorry for the fence)
Also of specific interest was this recent addition to the VALIANT AIR COMMAND WARBIRD MUSEUM; A Rockwell OV-10G Bronco N15453 (155409)
Remains of N8040L DC-3 (used for the rebuild of N3239T) have been parted out and removed.
No signs of DC-3 NC28340.
04 NOV 2010 Sanford Orlando KSFB
N9338 DC-9 NWA
N1332U DC-9 NWA
N8925E DC-9 NWA
N8923E DC-9 NWA
?? DC-10 a/w, “141” on nose-wheel door. Likely N141WE ex-Centurion.
N8926E DC-9 NWA
?? A300 DHL
YV-154T B727 DHL
N279AX DC-10 Centurion
06 NOV 2010 Ft. Pierce KFPR
N300MF DC-3 MFI Missionary Flights International
N200MF DC-3TP MFI Missionary Flights International
N10GN HU-16
N7927 HU-16
N117FB HU-16 a/w
N416SB DH-114 Heron 2X Norstar
N400MF DC-3 was away on airshow work.
N500MF DC-3TP (ex-N376AS) will join the MFI fleet by early 2011.
07+10 NOV 2010 Opa Locka KOPF
N150PA CV240 A/W
N145GT C131
N41527 CV440 Miami Air Lease
N584E CV580 A/W, being worked on. Will go to a new owner in Mexico.
N323CF CV440
N460WA C-54
N70BF DC-6
N381AA DC-7B AA C/S
N836D DC-7B HFF Eastern C/S
N12BA DC-3
N437GB DC-3
N705GB DC-3
N471CM Beech 18
YV-1854 DC-3
N681DG C123
N6NA Beech 18
N32TN DC-3S
N99800 Beech 18 Red C/S
N140JR DC-3
N147JR CV240 TolAir
N18R Beech 18
N587LM DC-3S Gateway
UK-12005 AN-12 SRX
UK-11418 AN-12 SRX
UK-12002 AN-12 SRX
UK-26001 AN26 Avialeasing
UR-46838 AN26 Med Air
N49115 HU-16
N265ES HU-16
N919RW DC-9 Dominicana
N927RC DC-9 NWA basic C/S
PR-SPC B727 SP Cargo Air
N450ML DC10 Arrow
N524MD DC10 Arrow
N526MD DC10 Arrow
N478CT DC10 Arrow
N607GC DC10 Gemini
N181AQ B763 Gulf Air
TU-TAW B737 NEBA
N741DH B727 A/W
N199AJ B727
N400RG B727 MBI
N697CA B727 Champion
N696CA B727
S2-AEK DC-8
JZ-KCV B747 Air Plus Comet
XA-UNR B737 Magni
PR-GLQ B737 GOL
PR-GLE B737 GOL
PR-GLN B737 GOL
N501UW B737
XA-UMP B737
N275MD Jetstar
08+10 NOV 2010 Ft Lauderdale Executive KFXE
N8WJ DC-3
N502DD Beech 18
?? Beech 18, green c/s.
N9690R Beech 18 Aztec Airways
N737SW Beech 18 Aztec Airways
N787WH B737 “Aero Toy Store”
Unknown ID and type??
09NOV 2010 Ft Lauderdale KFLL
N911E Beech 18
N961GP Beech 18, faded “K&K Aircraft” titles
N8476H Beech 18
N80GB Shorts SC-7 Skyvan, GB Airlink
N30GB Beech 18
4 X YS-11, stored.
N15MA DC-3, didn´t appear to be doing much flying.
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This thread is perhaps a tad "heavily laden" with photos but they were worth the wait...
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Your first "unknown type" must be some kind of "movie prop".
The cockpit/fuselage part has all the hallmarks of a Grumman HU-16 Albatros with an wholly imaginary nose turret scabbed on.
I cannot think of a single multi-engine type from the 1930/1940/1950s that had this shape of glazed nose, let alone with upwards pointed machine guns (B-17/B-25 do not qualify either).
Your second "unknown type" is a "flying egg", or more officially an IAI Arava ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Arava ).
The cockpit/fuselage part has all the hallmarks of a Grumman HU-16 Albatros with an wholly imaginary nose turret scabbed on.
I cannot think of a single multi-engine type from the 1930/1940/1950s that had this shape of glazed nose, let alone with upwards pointed machine guns (B-17/B-25 do not qualify either).
Your second "unknown type" is a "flying egg", or more officially an IAI Arava ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Arava ).
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Re: Log Florida November 2010 - Propliners and Old Jets.
Thanks, now that you mention a HU-16 I can clearly see the resemblance. My first thought was a museum display of some sort, but I guess a movie-prop very well could be what it is destined for.
Also thanks for identifying the Arava. Should have known that myself
Also thanks for identifying the Arava. Should have known that myself
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Great pictures! Sure need to go to Florida soon!
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Florida remains Propliner and Old Jets heaven.
Very nice report and some great pictures.
Very nice report and some great pictures.
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WOW, What a very nice report. Thanks for sharing.
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Nice report from Florida.
The unknown type at FLL is an Israeli Aircraft Industries Arava is a light STOL utility transport aircraft built in Israel by IAI in the late 1960s. Only used by Air Forces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Arava
Will ask my friends from Florida which registration this one has.
Rgds, Ger
The unknown type at FLL is an Israeli Aircraft Industries Arava is a light STOL utility transport aircraft built in Israel by IAI in the late 1960s. Only used by Air Forces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Arava
Will ask my friends from Florida which registration this one has.
Rgds, Ger
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Hi Invader26,
great report! I've been seriously considering returning to Florida over the Christmas break to catch more of those propliners before they all disappear, and your photos only make me want to go more...
As to your questions:
Daytona Beach:
Convairs CV240 N295M, N7761, N12905, and N22913 have all been scrapped, cf. http://www.prop-liners.com/desert.htm
I'm not sure about N1020C, but considering the state it was in in the most recent photo I can find (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Trans-Fl ... 0736841/L/) I don't assume it has survived (although I wasn't expecting any of the ex-KDAB Convairs to turn up at Orlando-Apopka either - did you stumble across that by accident?!).
New Smyrna:
N112CH: no news, but I believe it's been missing from KEVB for a while now
N6154T: is the front fuselage you saw (cf. http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1961.html)
N16CA: cut up, cf. http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/467431.html
N16ZE: cut up, cf. http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/467430.html
One of these two will have been the dark green contraption you saw.
Titusville:
NC28340 is still officially registered as N11EL, but AFAIK it was acquired by the VAC specifically to be used for parts recovery, and so if they have cut up N8040L, then I don't hold any hopes out for this one...
I'm sorry but I cannot help you with the more modern frames.
Could you please tell us a little more about airport access these days? It seems you took quite a lot of your photos from outside the fence. Were you not allowed access? And Opa Locka seems to have worked out as far as Mr Gomez' ramp was concerned, but not the rest of the field?
Best,
XL446
great report! I've been seriously considering returning to Florida over the Christmas break to catch more of those propliners before they all disappear, and your photos only make me want to go more...
As to your questions:
Daytona Beach:
Convairs CV240 N295M, N7761, N12905, and N22913 have all been scrapped, cf. http://www.prop-liners.com/desert.htm
I'm not sure about N1020C, but considering the state it was in in the most recent photo I can find (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Trans-Fl ... 0736841/L/) I don't assume it has survived (although I wasn't expecting any of the ex-KDAB Convairs to turn up at Orlando-Apopka either - did you stumble across that by accident?!).
New Smyrna:
N112CH: no news, but I believe it's been missing from KEVB for a while now
N6154T: is the front fuselage you saw (cf. http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1961.html)
N16CA: cut up, cf. http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/467431.html
N16ZE: cut up, cf. http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/467430.html
One of these two will have been the dark green contraption you saw.
Titusville:
NC28340 is still officially registered as N11EL, but AFAIK it was acquired by the VAC specifically to be used for parts recovery, and so if they have cut up N8040L, then I don't hold any hopes out for this one...
I'm sorry but I cannot help you with the more modern frames.
Could you please tell us a little more about airport access these days? It seems you took quite a lot of your photos from outside the fence. Were you not allowed access? And Opa Locka seems to have worked out as far as Mr Gomez' ramp was concerned, but not the rest of the field?
Best,
XL446
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[quote="invader26"]Log Florida November 2010
Also of specific interest was this recent addition to the VALIANT AIR COMMAND WARBIRD MUSEUM; A Rockwell OV-10G Bronco N15453 (155409)
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No it's not. This one was already there in 1994. I saw this one in the summer of 1994, while i was on my honeymoon in Florida. I even got a picture of it.
Also of specific interest was this recent addition to the VALIANT AIR COMMAND WARBIRD MUSEUM; A Rockwell OV-10G Bronco N15453 (155409)
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No it's not. This one was already there in 1994. I saw this one in the summer of 1994, while i was on my honeymoon in Florida. I even got a picture of it.
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Hmm... that's strange since I was told by a museum volunteer that it arrived only a few weeks earlier and that there was a clause saying the museum aren't allowed to fly it for the next four years.jah wise wrote: No it's not. This one was already there in 1994. I saw this one in the summer of 1994, while i was on my honeymoon in Florida. I even got a picture of it.
It's not long ago it was spraying "crops" in South America.
There are several photos of this bird on the web, try google the registration. For instance, here she is at Williams-Gateway, October 2007:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/2536221394/
Sorry to say, but I doubt you saw it at VAC Titusville in 94! Please feel free to post the picture you took.
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Thanks XL446 for you reply!
Yes, I saw the Convair now at Apopka (first picture in the thread).XL446 wrote: Daytona Beach:
Convairs CV240 N295M, N7761, N12905, and N22913 have all been scrapped, cf. http://www.prop-liners.com/desert.htm
I'm not sure about N1020C, but considering the state it was in in the most recent photo I can find (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Trans-Fl ... 0736841/L/) I don't assume it has survived (although I wasn't expecting any of the ex-KDAB Convairs to turn up at Orlando-Apopka either - did you stumble across that by accident?!).
Fact is, that this was a family vacation so (believe it or not) prop-hunting was only a secondary priority when moving from A-B. Most of the time I had the family sitting in the car.. .waiting patiently. Taking this into consideration, I didn't do much of an effort to go airside (except for one visit to KOPF and the Florida Air Transport ramp as you mentioned).XL446 wrote: Could you please tell us a little more about airport access these days? It seems you took quite a lot of your photos from outside the fence. Were you not allowed access? And Opa Locka seems to have worked out as far as Mr Gomez' ramp was concerned, but not the rest of the field?
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Thanks, I tracked it down to be N302CLGer wrote:Nice report from Florida.
The unknown type at FLL is an Israeli Aircraft Industries Arava is a light STOL utility transport aircraft built in Israel by IAI in the late 1960s. Only used by Air Forces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Arava
Will ask my friends from Florida which registration this one has.
Rgds, Ger
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