ATCC Dutch Mil NL (EHMC) frequencies

joost · Post by **joost** » 10 Jan 2008, 20:43

And I heard 132.525 this evening called Bandbox several times.

That is, Bandbox worked on this freq with Flame (one of which had bad UHF radio)

Henk Voortwijs · Post by **Henk Voortwijs** » 14 Jan 2008, 16:05

joost wrote: ust call them Radar Upper, Lower or Back up. Much easier and always correct

UAC = Upper Area Control

joost · Post by **joost** » 15 Jan 2008, 20:47

Henk Voortwijs wrote:
joost wrote: ust call them Radar Upper, Lower or Back up. Much easier and always correct
UAC = Upper Area Control

How stupid of me

EHAM, Would like to share mine opinion why i don not think it is Nescesary to place number behind UAC

Could very well be a Designation for a Terminal at Dutch Mil itself but I do not see any advantage in knowing that. Story will be different if, like London Mil, they assign Squawks to a Terminal/Freq.
If a Plane is Instructed to Squawk 6151, I already know his next freq will be 135.275/277.775 (where 15 in the Squawk is also Terminal Number at London).

In other words, if Squawk 472x series is linked with UAC1 and 473x with UAC2 etc etc then it would be very nice to know. It is not diffucult to find out to which freq planes will switch after they are instructed to Squawk 472x. Then we can link a Freq to UAC and in the future we can predict which freq will be next after they got instructed to Squawk 472x

I could be wrong off course but I have not noticed such a system in use by Dutch Mil for their UAC freqs. Therefore I store my UAC freqs from Dutch Mil only as UAC and not with any number behind it.

Grtz
Joost

CG-01 · Post by **CG-01** » 24 Feb 2008, 21:15

Henk Voortwijs wrote:
joost wrote:ust call them Radar Upper, Lower or Back up. Much easier and always correct
UAC = Upper Area Control

UAC = Upper Area Control Centre, just like Maastricht is. http://www.eurocontrol.int/muac/public/ ... epage.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dutch Mil is a MATCC and nothing else. Frequencies for the Upper areas are called Radar Upper.

Henk Voortwijs · Post by **Henk Voortwijs** » 01 Mar 2008, 22:10

CG-01 wrote: UAC = Upper Area Control Centre, just like Maastricht is.
Dutch Mil is a MATCC and nothing else. Frequencies for the Upper areas are called Radar Upper.

UAC = Upper Area Control
UACC = Upper Area Control Centre.

Just the other day I heard an airplane on 120.8250 MHz; he was flying at FL 290. When that isn't UAC.....

CG-01 · Post by **CG-01** » 01 Mar 2008, 22:16

Henk Voortwijs wrote:
CG-01 wrote:UAC = Upper Area Control Centre, just like Maastricht is.
Dutch Mil is a MATCC and nothing else. Frequencies for the Upper areas are called Radar Upper.
UAC = Upper Area Control
UACC = Upper Area Control Centre.

Just the other day I heard an airplane on 120.8250 MHz; he was flying at FL 290. When that isn't UAC.....

Whatever you want. You call it your way, I call it the official way.
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hdehaan · Post by **hdehaan** » 21 Mar 2008, 12:44

Hi all,

Can someone give me the correct UHF-freq for Rapcon West?
(I have 281.425 and 281.475)

Thanks,
Hans

Spine24 · Post by **Spine24** » 21 Mar 2008, 12:51

Category: CURRENT
Frequency: 281,4750 Mhz
Country: NETHERLANDS
ICAO: EHMC
Base/Organisation: NIEUW MILLIGEN (MILITARY CONTROL)
Authority: DUTCH MIL
Usage: RAPCON WEST
Usage2: FOR EHGR EHWO
Notes: 20070416DV
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Henk Voortwijs · Post by **Henk Voortwijs** » 27 Mar 2008, 23:52

hdehaan wrote:Can someone give me the correct UHF-freq for Rapcon West? (I have 281.425 and 281.475)

Oeps, my mistake

. It is indeed 281.4750 MHz, sorry.....

CG-01 · Post by **CG-01** » 19 Apr 2008, 23:53

Henk Voortwijs wrote:132.5250 MHz = RAPCON west

Make it Radar Lower.

EHAM · Post by **EHAM** » 20 Apr 2008, 10:34

And make that Radar Lower Secondary

.

credit: Joost de Raaf

joost · Post by **joost** » 20 Apr 2008, 10:42

EHAM wrote:And make that Radar Lower Secondary .

credit: Joost de Raaf

Hi Joost,

Pleae also note I made some comment to that on DMRG.
Will do it also here

Have it as Dutch Mil Lower, Secondary. However, seems more it is a Dirscrete freq or even maybe back up. Have been in use recently as Discrete for Uruzgan Integration and for Open Skies Mission. Before that it was used as Upper when 120.825 was used as Rapcon North (due to problems with 122.100). All recent traffic I have heard working VHF Rapcon West was on 123.575

I am thinking about deleting secondary or maybe even lower in my db for this freq as it is used for various tasks lately. But that is for my own db and could very well be not the official designation used by Dutch Mil.

Plse advise?

Grtz (other) Joost

EHAM · Post by **EHAM** » 20 Apr 2008, 10:47

Well, my interpretation of your info is as follows:
It's used as DM Radar Lower Secondary, but due to some unusual events (problems with 122.100, Uruzgan exercise, Open Skies), it was/is used different sometimes.

But to be honest, I had 132.525 as RAPCON West too (like Henk Voortwijs). I thought Ernesto Bauer (Soesterberg) heard 132.525 as RAPCON West some time ago. And besides, 128.350 is already used as DM Radar Lower.

Post by **ebauer** » 20 Apr 2008, 10:52

EHAM wrote:Well, my interpretation of your info is as follows:
It's used as DM Radar Lower Secondary, but due to some unusual events (problems with 122.100, Uruzgan exercise, Open Skies), it was/is used different sometimes.

But to be honest, I had 132.575 as RAPCON West too (like Henk Voortwijs). I thought Ernesto Bauer (Soesterberg) heard 132.575 as RAPCON West some time ago.

Fully correct! That's the main reason why it is important to mention it!

Most of the times it is only temporary but it can be usefull to know.

joost · Post by **joost** » 20 Apr 2008, 10:55

But to be honest, I had 132.575 as RAPCON West too (like Henk Voortwijs)

When you started your topic in SF about Nederlandse luchtvaart freqs, you did not. You had it as Lower Secondary.. Somehow you changed it then..

Ernesto, tnkx.. this makes me think more and more this one is sort of Back up freq. As I recall correctly we had some NOTAMS in the past for RAPCON West with some freqs u/s one of which was 123.575. Hence the use of 132.525 I guess back then
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