Blackbull11-formation

[ebauer]

13/9

Blackbull11-formation (USAF C130 58-1402 & Polish AF C295M 014). Both aircraft were performing a VFR low level flight -as a twoship- out of Eindhoven, to the 'Market Garden' droppingzone at the Ginkelse Heide and further on via the IJsselmeer to Den Helder and via the coastline southbound back to Eindhoven again. Communications were with either Dutch Mil info 132.350 MHz and Amsterdam info on 124.300 MHz;

"The callsign, Sir, is BLACKBULL one one. BLACKBULL one one set. The lead aircraft is a Charlie one fourty and the number two aircraft is a Charlie two ninety vife"

[Bennie]

13/9

Blackbull11-formation (USAF C130 58-1402 & Polish AF C295M 014). Both aircraft were performing a VFR low level flight -as a twoship- out of Eindhoven, to the 'Market Garden' droppingzone at the Ginkelse Heide and further on via the IJsselmeer to Den Helder and via the coastline southbound back to Eindhoven again. Communications were with either Dutch Mil info 132.350 MHz and Amsterdam info on 124.300 MHz;

"The callsign, Sir, is BLACKBULL one one. BLACKBULL one one set. The lead aircraft is a Charlie one fourty and the number two aircraft is a Charlie two ninety vife"

Charlie one forties in Europe..... those were the days!

The Polish Casa was 024 unless photos of her have been manipulated...

[Stuartking076]

12:25,
14-5802 is now landing back at leeuwarden as c/s Ivory 48
Just checked in now,

[Hermolaus]

A/A of the formation, anyone? TIA!

[Hermolaus]

Today (15-SEP-2017) similar situation. According adsbexchange:

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Blackbull11 = NAF C130 / G-273 / 480C03
Blackbull12 = US C30J / 14-5802 / AE595F
Blackbull13 = PLF C295 / 024 / 48D853
Blackbull14 = GAF ? / ? / 3E8B6F
Blackbull15 = ? / ? / 3E8C0A

Anyone for A/A?

[Arjenp]

Anyone for A/A?

The lead is working with Whitehorse Ops on 244.35 MHz. Haven't heard the A/A yet.

[Hermolaus]

The lead is working with Whitehorse Ops on 244.35 MHz. Haven't heard the A/A yet.

Thanks!
Where the callsign comes from? Does it have any historical reference to the real Market Garden 1944?

[joost]

BLACKBULL is a 336Sqn callsign, their squadron logo is a bull.

[Hermolaus]

Thanks!
BTW. Is there any mention in historical literature concerning Market Garden to radio communication on those days of September 1944? Looks like a very interesting subject!...

[joost]

<125.900> for Blackbulls

C-160's were also up <142.850> (yesterday and day before)

Para freq 258.100

[Hermolaus]

Thank you very much, Joost!
A bit surprised to learn they used A/A within civil airband range...
Understand both GAF a/c (listed by me) were C-160s (the ones using <142.850>). Thanks!
Anyone for their tails?

[Hermolaus]

Today (16-SEP-2017, 0805Z) on Adsbexch.:

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BULL01	2100	3601	C30J	14-5802	AE595F		United States
BULL02	2325	3601	C295	024	48D853	PLF	Poland
BULL04	2000	3601			3E8B6F		Germany
BULL03	2075	3601			3E8C0A		Germany

Did they shortened their callsign to "Bull" indeed?

[joost]

Today (16-SEP-2017, 0805Z) on Adsbexch.:

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BULL01	2100	3601	C30J	14-5802	AE595F		United States
BULL02	2325	3601	C295	024	48D853	PLF	Poland
BULL04	2000	3601			3E8B6F		Germany
BULL03	2075	3601			3E8C0A		Germany

Did they shortened their callsign to "Bull" indeed?

Nope, it is BLACKBULL11-14

[Arjenp]

<125.900> for Blackbulls

C-160's were also up <142.850> (yesterday and day before)

Para freq 258.100

Also working with radar 397.2750 MHz.