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Fred Jansen wrote:We asked the guy who was standing with the NH-90 on display in front of Halle 9. Several more people asked him and when he was talking to us he called someone who gave him the following numbers: 78+25/1043, 78+22/1112 and 78+27/1118. He wrote it down for other spotters.
Fred Jansen
Thanks for clearing that matter, but 79+25 is known as being c/n 1043?!? So either he wrote down the wrong serial or wrong c/n. My guess is the c/n is correct as the 78 & 79 serials are a bit confusing sometimes.
c/n plate of Al2 "PB-132" showed the following: "Appareil SE3130, Ensemble 2530000, No. d'ordre SC138, Date 1-61". Hope this helps someone, as I can't make head or tail of it..
c/n plate of Al2 "PB-132" showed the following: "Appareil SE3130, Ensemble 2530000, No. d'ordre SC138, Date 1-61". Hope this helps someone, as I can't make head or tail of it..
This was the one with the dummy SS.11 missiles, right? I photographed the c/n painted on the engine exhaust, will post it tonight.
Le Addeur noir wrote:The halle 7 NH90s were reported as 78+22,78+25 and 78+26 (with some prompting for the last one) by someone in the Bundeswehr.
Are we all sure we're talking about the same hangar? Hangar 9 was the new build hangar between hangar 10 (also a new one) and hangar 4 on the static side. Hangar 7 was off limits and accross the flightline at the same height of the HKP15.
In hangar 7 at least one NH90 could be seen between the doors on the far left side, which were slightly open at least in the afternoon.
Hi everybody
Sjoerd is completely right, I was mixing up the hangar numbers !
So three NH90's in halle 9, and one NH90 in hangaar 7.
Hereby a log of what seen last Saturday at a quite fruitfull "Tag der Bundeswehr".
I will kick off with the wrecks & relics:
Main gate:
75+11 SE3130 Alouette II Preserved outside, near simulator building:
(86+71) MBB Bölkow Bo105P
71+97 Bell/Dornier UH-1D Huey I read 71+97 too. The photo on Eurodemobbed shows 71+98 on the other side of the boom. which one is correct, please?
83+32 Paisecki H21C Retriver
(SA101) / "QA+471" Sikorsky H34 Choctaw Ausbildungswerkstatt, inside and outside:
40+58 Dornier/Berguet Alpha Jet
41+06 Dornier/Breguet Alpha Jet
91+62 FWP/Piaggio FWP149D
91+81 FWP/Piaggio FWP149D is this the correct number please?
99+17 Rockwell OV-10B(Z) Bronco
99+29 Rockwell OV-10B(Z) Bronco
99+42 Fiat G91R/3
99+45 Fiat G91R/3
none UH-1D simulator (had 72+14 painted on the back of it)
(80+10) MBB Bo105M
(87+10????) MBB Bo105P halle 10, inside and outside:
75+01 SE3130 Alouette II
87+92 MBB Bo105P
(56+16) / "PL+409" Dornier Do27
96+49 Mill Mi-24D
PB-132 SE3130 Alouette II does anyone know the id of this please? Halle 6:
75+51 SE3130 Alouette II 78+02 (1006) NH90 also in here Halle 2:
unknown Bell/Dornier UH-1D Huey (dismantled) static:
86+28 MBB Bo105P
86+49 MBB Bo105P
87+28 MBB Bo105P
87+51 MBB Bo105P
87+62 MBB Bo105P
That were the six Bundespolizei helos plus the orange bird from the Bundesministerium des Inneren. They performed a flyby after they took off on their way home. You can find the serials in Remco's excellent list: D-HVBQ/W/X EC135, D-HLTF EC155, D-HEGK AS332L1, D-HSHC EC120 and orange D-HZSP EC135
Rod Burden, who is no member of Scramble, asked me to post this info:
I note the exchange on Scramble, under Tag der Bundeswehr 11 June 2016 Buckeburg, about the Bo105 on the east side near the tower. My photo shows it to be 86+39, no badge (and ex-Celle store).
I'm not a Scramble member; perhaps you'd like to pass on the info?
Hope this is useful (as I didn't visit, I didn't follow the topic...).
frank kramer wrote:Quote:
c/n plate of Al2 "PB-132" showed the following: "Appareil SE3130, Ensemble 2530000, No. d'ordre SC138, Date 1-61". Hope this helps someone, as I can't make head or tail of it..
This was the one with the dummy SS.11 missiles, right? I photographed the c/n painted on the engine exhaust, will post it tonight.
frank kramer wrote:That's the one. Much appreciated!
C/n 1234. with the 'alternative number' of 'IIC6'. Not '11C6'.
According to Paul Jackson's 'French Military Aviation', c/n 1234 was French serial 138 (F-MJAR). So that seems to be your 'No. d'ordre SC138'.
In which case this is a former French bird, not a German one! Interesting! Scramble database has this c/n as 1234/M138 and has it transferred to the French civil register as F-GKGC.
frank kramer wrote:In which case this is a former French bird, not a German one! Interesting! Scramble database has this c/n as 1234/M138 and has it transferred to the French civil register as F-GKGC.
DGAC say F-GKGC is a SA 315 B (Lama) & was removed from the register & sold abroad in1992.
frank kramer wrote:In which case this is a former French bird, not a German one! Interesting! Scramble database has this c/n as 1234/M138 and has it transferred to the French civil register as F-GKGC.
And F-GKGC moved on to Japan as JA6117.
If the c/n plate, which has been read, was on the outside left aft cabin side then it has no link to the a/c c/n. The Alouette cabins were made by another factory plant then final assembly plant. Cabins have not (always) been put on airframes in sequence.
For the benefit of Mr. Kite, there will be a show tonight on trampoline
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