Hi All,
Last Friday 20-06 I was again delivering goods at the new museum, it was now that they being busy whit putting everything in it.
Before that I had great expectations about it, but now I saw this it was a great disappointment, because.
1) Its overcrowded they put to much in an small place
2) The F-15 Hangs about 4-5mtr above the ground, surround by tanks & military trucks, maybe this will change before opening.
3)photo conditions are as worse as they can be because, all 4 sides of the building are glass!!!! so it doesn't matter how you aim, your always got against light.
I had the hope that they used the F-15 & Wolfhound as "gate guard "instead the used the Breguet Atlantic # 250.
But the most strange/curio sic item that I saw was the F-104 hanging UPSIDE DOWN on the sealing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also at the outside of museum they created a beautiful environment.
I'm not sure if its allowed to put some pictures of it on this side, therefor I wont take the risk.
Sorry that am so negative, but that was my feeling about it.
Greetzzzz ETUR Spotter/trucker Frits
NMM Soesterberg
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Re: NMM Soesterberg
You knew it before, as we all did.
It will not be spotter heaven, but sort of a themepark.
Not history is important, but the general "feeling"....
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It will not be spotter heaven, but sort of a themepark.
Not history is important, but the general "feeling"....
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It will be anything but a theme park. It won't be a spotters paradise, it won't be the aviation museum you might used to know. But it will be a modern museum showing and explaining the Dutch military history and present.
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Re: NMM Soesterberg
I Agree with you 100% its build to let the general public see the history past & present of our armed forces.VinFlyer wrote:It will be anything but a theme park. It won't be a spotters paradise, it won't be the aviation museum you might used to know. But it will be a modern museum showing and explaining the Dutch military history and present.
So for anyone of you who got the intentions to go and shoot some nice pics......
The only good spot is to shoot he Spitfire & V1.
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Re: NMM Soesterberg
Don't know what everyone is complaining about. Since when is spotting an indoor hobby? Not enough airfields within a 2 hour drive to got to?? Just see this as a great opportunity to let more people get in touch with something awesome like aviation (history). This will be a nice breeding ground for a new generation of aviation enthusiasts.
I always say a boy can learn more at an airport than at any school.
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Re: NMM Soesterberg
I don't think so.
The succes of the former MLM will not be equaled by this new "museum".
The pleasant and relaxed sphere of the old one will be replaced by a clinical approach.
And let me remind you: this museum is set up around one commercial party with only one goal: PROFIT !
The succes of the former MLM will not be equaled by this new "museum".
The pleasant and relaxed sphere of the old one will be replaced by a clinical approach.
And let me remind you: this museum is set up around one commercial party with only one goal: PROFIT !
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Re: NMM Soesterberg
Please, don't forget that in recent years several aviation museums around the world have been closed, mainly due to one thing: cost of the location. Preserving a lot of planes with enough space around for pictures takes an aweful lot of space. Square meters are expensive and therefore it is not strange for a museum to put as much exhibits as possible in the available space. There are few museums around that provide good photo opportunities for all exhibits, unfortunately.
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When the NMM announced its plans to move to the grounds of the former airbase, I was hopeful that they would use some of the former shelter areas or the Zulu Alert barn for their collection of USAF aircraft (F-86, F-102, F-4E, F-15) - recreating some sense of what Soesterberg was like during the Cold War. A pity this wasn't the case although I am sure it would have been expensive to set up, maintain and ensure the unused structures remain secure.
The drawings of the new building does make it look very nice and modern (having not seen the building myself), I am sure it will be nice to visit - though photography will be challenging.
But unless my memories fail me, the majority of the indoor collection in the old museum were also an absolute nightmare to photograph so I don't see that as a major change. It's just a pity of the outdoor collection but it is very hard to keep those aircraft in a presentable shape. If you keep them outside, not only will the paint completely fade - but corrosion will consume the aircraft to the point where it either requires an expensive overhaul or it has to be scrapped.
The drawings of the new building does make it look very nice and modern (having not seen the building myself), I am sure it will be nice to visit - though photography will be challenging.
But unless my memories fail me, the majority of the indoor collection in the old museum were also an absolute nightmare to photograph so I don't see that as a major change. It's just a pity of the outdoor collection but it is very hard to keep those aircraft in a presentable shape. If you keep them outside, not only will the paint completely fade - but corrosion will consume the aircraft to the point where it either requires an expensive overhaul or it has to be scrapped.