NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
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Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
This will make it even harder for airlines like MH and CX to make a profit on the route to AMS. Wonder how long they will stay.
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Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
Typo zou kunnen....phkza wrote:Hmm, volgens EK zelf gaan ze echt met de 777-200LR komen. Misschien typo in de slotlijst? Kan ook zijn dat ze, net als bij de start van de route, een mix van 200 en 300 doen.B767-300ER wrote:Ook reeds op de slotlijst.
Echter dan met een 77W (777-300) voor 360 zitplaatsen?
Maar dan is zowel het vliegtuigtype een typo als het aantal paxen....
er staat daar 360 77W. En in een EK 77W gaan in bepaalde varianten ook exact 360 pax...
Maar goed, het zijn slots, kijken wat er komt! De website van EK toont in ieder geval de 200LR.
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Regards, N.
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Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
From 27 October 2013 the daily JAT B733 service BEG-AMS-BEG will transfer to daily Air Serbia with A319s, as ETIHAD has taken 49% ownership of JAT and will transform the carrier under a 5 year management contract.
http://www.etihad.com/en-nl/about-us/ne ... l-airline/
http://www.etihad.com/en-nl/about-us/ne ... l-airline/
Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
De uitstel van de CGK-LGW operatie van Garuda zou wel eens kunnen betekenen dat we deze winter toch de nieuwe 77W van Garuda gaan krijgen op AMS.
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Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
Uitstel van CGK-LGW vluchten door Garuda heeft (ook) te maken met het feit dat CGK geen 100% beladen 77W's aankan; Garuda kan dus geen 77W toestellen zonder beperkingen gebruiken. CGK heeft toegezegd de wijzigingen door te voeren medio 2014 zodat Garuda alsnog de geplande vluchten kan gaan uitvoeren, wellicht dan ook naar AMS.
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Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
Garuda now has their 777-300 scheduled for
Jakarta to Shanghai, Seoul, Tokyo Narita and Sydney
Jakarta to Shanghai, Seoul, Tokyo Narita and Sydney
Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
Also good to mention that all Jet Airways slots are gone from the slotlist. Maybe better luck next summer?
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Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
ArkeFly stopt per 6 december met Amsterdam - Kathmandu. De verbinding voor TUI wordt daarna uitgevoerd met Turkish Airlines.
Jammer dat na Transavia en Martinair nu ook ArkeFly verdwijnt uit Nepal. In 2009 de pre-inaugural gevlogen (met zicht nét genoeg om te landen, anders div naar Delhi), was een mooie vlucht!
Jammer dat na Transavia en Martinair nu ook ArkeFly verdwijnt uit Nepal. In 2009 de pre-inaugural gevlogen (met zicht nét genoeg om te landen, anders div naar Delhi), was een mooie vlucht!
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Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
Slots are on hold... but def not off the table...Remco wrote:Also good to mention that all Jet Airways slots are gone from the slotlist. Maybe better luck next summer?
More good news from Philippines , as from Dec apperently 3x weekly A340 service, to be increased to daily
Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
Eurolot has finally loaded its new Winter schedule for AMS. The airline will change its schedule to 3x Gdansk and 4x Krakow, dedicated service on alternate days.
GDANSK:
- dep. GDN 06:40 - arr. AMS 09:00 K2311 non-stop Eurolot 2h 20min. DH4 Mon, Wed
- dep. GDN 16:05 - arr. AMS 18:25 K2317 non-stop Eurolot 2h 20min. DH4 Fri
- dep. AMS 10:00 - arr. GDN 12:15 K2312 non-stop Eurolot 2h 15min. DH4 Mon, Wed
- dep. AMS 19:05 - arr. GDN 21:10 K2318 non-stop Eurolot 2h 05min. DH4 Fri
KRAKOW:
- dep. KRK 06:30 - arr. AMS 09:00 K2411 non-stop Eurolot 2h 30min. DH4 Tue, Thu, Fri
- dep. KRK 16:45 - arr. AMS 19:15 K2415 non-stop Eurolot 2h 30min. DH4 Sun
- dep. AMS 10:00 - arr. KRK 12:25 K2412 non-stop Eurolot 2h 25min. DH4 Tue, Thu, Fri
- dep. AMS 19:55 - arr. KRK 22:20 K2416 non-stop Eurolot 2h 25min. DH4 Sun
So AMS will see Eurolot Mon-Fri 09.00 - 10.00, plus Fri and Sun evening.
GDANSK:
- dep. GDN 06:40 - arr. AMS 09:00 K2311 non-stop Eurolot 2h 20min. DH4 Mon, Wed
- dep. GDN 16:05 - arr. AMS 18:25 K2317 non-stop Eurolot 2h 20min. DH4 Fri
- dep. AMS 10:00 - arr. GDN 12:15 K2312 non-stop Eurolot 2h 15min. DH4 Mon, Wed
- dep. AMS 19:05 - arr. GDN 21:10 K2318 non-stop Eurolot 2h 05min. DH4 Fri
KRAKOW:
- dep. KRK 06:30 - arr. AMS 09:00 K2411 non-stop Eurolot 2h 30min. DH4 Tue, Thu, Fri
- dep. KRK 16:45 - arr. AMS 19:15 K2415 non-stop Eurolot 2h 30min. DH4 Sun
- dep. AMS 10:00 - arr. KRK 12:25 K2412 non-stop Eurolot 2h 25min. DH4 Tue, Thu, Fri
- dep. AMS 19:55 - arr. KRK 22:20 K2416 non-stop Eurolot 2h 25min. DH4 Sun
So AMS will see Eurolot Mon-Fri 09.00 - 10.00, plus Fri and Sun evening.
Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
EK has adjusted its new 2nd flight to AMS by 10 minutes. The new evening service now departs at 22.00 exactly the same time as EY.phkza wrote:Emirates is finally doubling the frequency on DXB-AMS
As of 4-12-2013, new daily flight:
DXB-AMS 16:10-20:40
AMS-DXB 22:10-07:40 (+1)
Operated by B777-200
- dep. AMS 22:00 - arr. AUH 07:25 EY078 non-stop 6h 25min. A332 daily
- dep. AMS 22:00 - arr. DXB 07:30 EK150 non-stop 6h 30min. B772LR daily
- dep. DXB 16:10 - arr. AMS 20:30 EK149 non-stop 7h 20min. B772LR daily
Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
The impact of the 2nd EK flight to AMS is becoming clearer.XYZ wrote:EK has adjusted its new 2nd flight to AMS by 10 minutes. The new evening service now departs at 22.00 exactly the same time as EY.phkza wrote:Emirates is finally doubling the frequency on DXB-AMS
As of 4-12-2013, new daily flight:
DXB-AMS 16:10-20:40
AMS-DXB 22:10-07:40 (+1)
Operated by B777-200
- dep. AMS 22:00 - arr. AUH 07:25 EY078 non-stop 6h 25min. A332 daily
- dep. AMS 22:00 - arr. DXB 07:30 EK150 non-stop 6h 30min. B772LR daily
- dep. DXB 16:10 - arr. AMS 20:30 EK149 non-stop 7h 20min. B772LR daily
KLM has decided not to expand AMS-AUH this winter with larger A333 aircraft, as initially planned for W13.
The A333 will now appear on IAD, AUA, BON, ACC, LOS routes.
This permits frequency increases with A332 on AMS-DOH-MCT, AMS-YYC and AMS-HAV.
KLM will not operate the 2x/weekly MD11 service AMS-JRO-AMS this winter.
Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
Air Serbia announced its schedule to replace the B737 with Airbus A319. Amsterdam will see the A319 for the first time "a few days before the New Year holidays". So i guess two months later than stated a few messages back in this thread.
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Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
KLM gaat in de winter 9x per week vliegen naar ATH, tegenover 7x in W1213:
KL1577 AMS0835 – 1245ATH 73H 47
KL1575 AMS1155 – 1605ATH 73H x6
KL1575 AMS1155 – 1605ATH 73J 6
KL1578 ATH1340 – 1620AMS 73H 47
KL1576 ATH1700 – 1940AMS 73H x6
KL1576 ATH1700 – 1940AMS 73J 6
KL1577/1578 niet tussen 06JAN14 en 19FEB14
KL1575/1576 vanaf 06JAN14 ook met andere (737-700/-800) toestellen
KL1577 AMS0835 – 1245ATH 73H 47
KL1575 AMS1155 – 1605ATH 73H x6
KL1575 AMS1155 – 1605ATH 73J 6
KL1578 ATH1340 – 1620AMS 73H 47
KL1576 ATH1700 – 1940AMS 73H x6
KL1576 ATH1700 – 1940AMS 73J 6
KL1577/1578 niet tussen 06JAN14 en 19FEB14
KL1575/1576 vanaf 06JAN14 ook met andere (737-700/-800) toestellen
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Re: NEWS - Winterschedule 2013-2014
From Airlineroute.com:
KLM W13 Long-Haul Operation Changes as of 19AUG13
by JL
Update at 0400GMT 19AUG13
As per 19AUG13 GDS timetable/inventory display, latest changes to KLM’s Winter 2013/14 long-haul operation, from 27OCT13, as follow. Further changes remain possible.
Amsterdam – Abu Dhabi – Bahrain Airbus A330-200 operates daily for entire Winter 2013/14 season (Planned 2 weekly A330-300 service cancelled)
Amsterdam – Accra 10DEC13 – 06JAN14 Airbus A330-200 replaces -300 on Day 2 (Note in last report in June 2013, it was stated as A330-300 replaces -200 on Day 2 as error)
Amsterdam – Doha – Muscat Service increases from 5 to 6 weekly, new flight operates on Day 6
KL441 AMS1030 – 1845DOH1945 – 2205MCT 332 x2
KL442 MCT2320 – 2355DOH0055+1 – 0555+1AMS 332 x2
Amsterdam – Hangzhou Service reduces from 3 to 2 weekly in Winter 2013/14 season
KL881 AMS1410 – 0730+1HGH 772 36
KL882 HGH1305 – 1805AMS 772 47
Amsterdam – Washington Dulles 19NOV13 – 07DEC13 3 of 7 weekly (Day 256) service operated by Airbus A330-300, replaces -200
Previously reported changes:
Amsterdam – Almaty Service to operate 4 weekly in Winter 2013, increased from 3 weekly in W12
Amsterdam – Aruba – Bonaire – Amsterdam
eff 10DEC13 KL765 2 weekly service operated by Airbus A330-300, replaces -200 (Previous plan 3 weekly)
eff 17JAN14 KL767 1 weekly service operated by Airbus A330-300, replaces -200
KL765 AMS1200 – 1725AUA1840 – 1930BON2040 – 1050+1AMS 333 26
KL767 AMS1200 – 1725AUA1840 – 1930BON2040 – 1050+1AMS 333 5
Amsterdam – Bangkok From 28OCT13 to 03DEC13, overall service increases from 7 to 8 weekly, and further expands to 10 weekly from 04DEC13. Operational day for KL877/878 as follow
28OCT13 – 03DEC13 772 Day 1 (Day 2 from BKK)
09DEC13 – 31JAN14 772 Day 135 (Day 246 from BKK)
01FEB14 – 28MAR14 772 Day 1 74E Day 35
KL877 AMS1435 – 0710+1BKK EQV 135
KL875 AMS1725 – 1000+1BKK 77W x145
KL875 AMS1725 – 1000+1BKK 772 145
KL878 BKK0925 – 1530AMS EQV 246
KL876 BKK1220 – 1825AMS 77W x256
KL876 BKK1220 – 1825AMS 772 256
KL875/876 Boeing 777-300ER (77W) operational days may vary
Amsterdam – Buenos Aires Boeing 777-300ER replaces -200ER, 3 weekly service
Amsterdam – Calgary Service to operate 6 weekly in Winter 2013, increased from 5 weekly in W12. A330-200 operating
Amsterdam – Havana Service increases from 3 to 4 weekly
KL723 AMS1045 – 1635HAV 332 x257
KL724 HAV1830 – 0900+1AMS 332 x257
Amsterdam – Hong Kong Operational schedule and flight number changes. Night-time departure moving to afternoon hours in both direction.
KL887 AMS1740 – 1150+1HKG 74E D
KL888 HKG1335 – 1905AMS 74E D
Amsterdam – Johannesburg 08DEC13 – 12FEB14 Boeing 777-300ER replaces -200ER on Day 37
Amsterdam – Lagos 15DEC13 – 05JAN14 A330-200 replaces -300 on Day 7
Amsterdam – Los Angeles 04MAR14 – 29MAR14 Boeing 747-400PAX replaces -400COMBI on Day 256 (Day 5 with 747PAX from 11MAR14)
Amsterdam – Mexico City 12DEC13 – 01FEB14 Service increases from 7 to 9 weekly
KL687 AMS1230 – 1715MEX 74E 46
KL685 AMS1435 – 1925MEX 74E D
KL688 MEX1915 – 1235+1AMS 74E 46
KL686 MEX2150 – 1510+1AMS 74E D
Amsterdam – Quito – Guayaquil – Amsterdam Service increases from 6 weekly to daily, 777-200ER operating
Amsterdam – San Francisco eff 12JAN14 Service reduces from daily to 6 weekly. MD11 and A330-200 operates this route
27OCT13 – 11JAN14 Daily service M11 Day 146 332 Day x146
12JAN14 – 27FEB14 5 weekly service M11 Day 46 332 Day 257
28FEB14 – 29MAR14 6 weekly service M11 Day 146 332 Day 257
Amsterdam – Seoul Incheon Operational schedule and flight number changes. Amsterdam departure moves from afternoon to late-evening, Seoul departure moves to midnight hours
KL855 AMS2120 – 1540+1ICN 74E D
KL856 ICN0055 – 0445AMS 74E D
Amsterdam – Taipei Taoyuan – Manila Operational day changes for Boeing 777-300ER aircraft (AMS departure listed below)
27OCT13 – 31JAN14 Day 135
01FEB14 – 29MAR14 Day 136
Amsterdam – Tokyo Narita
KL861/862 operational aircraft changes (AMS departure listed below)
27OCT13 – 06DEC13 744 Day 16 74E Day x156 772 Day 5
07DEC13 – 29MAR14 744 Day 16 74E Day x16
KL863/864 operates following frequencies in W13 (AMS departure)
27OCT13 – 05DEC13 772 Day 14
06DEC13 – 02MAR14 No operation
03MAR14 – 29MAR14 74E Day 1
KLM W13 Long-Haul Operation Changes as of 19AUG13
by JL
Update at 0400GMT 19AUG13
As per 19AUG13 GDS timetable/inventory display, latest changes to KLM’s Winter 2013/14 long-haul operation, from 27OCT13, as follow. Further changes remain possible.
Amsterdam – Abu Dhabi – Bahrain Airbus A330-200 operates daily for entire Winter 2013/14 season (Planned 2 weekly A330-300 service cancelled)
Amsterdam – Accra 10DEC13 – 06JAN14 Airbus A330-200 replaces -300 on Day 2 (Note in last report in June 2013, it was stated as A330-300 replaces -200 on Day 2 as error)
Amsterdam – Doha – Muscat Service increases from 5 to 6 weekly, new flight operates on Day 6
KL441 AMS1030 – 1845DOH1945 – 2205MCT 332 x2
KL442 MCT2320 – 2355DOH0055+1 – 0555+1AMS 332 x2
Amsterdam – Hangzhou Service reduces from 3 to 2 weekly in Winter 2013/14 season
KL881 AMS1410 – 0730+1HGH 772 36
KL882 HGH1305 – 1805AMS 772 47
Amsterdam – Washington Dulles 19NOV13 – 07DEC13 3 of 7 weekly (Day 256) service operated by Airbus A330-300, replaces -200
Previously reported changes:
Amsterdam – Almaty Service to operate 4 weekly in Winter 2013, increased from 3 weekly in W12
Amsterdam – Aruba – Bonaire – Amsterdam
eff 10DEC13 KL765 2 weekly service operated by Airbus A330-300, replaces -200 (Previous plan 3 weekly)
eff 17JAN14 KL767 1 weekly service operated by Airbus A330-300, replaces -200
KL765 AMS1200 – 1725AUA1840 – 1930BON2040 – 1050+1AMS 333 26
KL767 AMS1200 – 1725AUA1840 – 1930BON2040 – 1050+1AMS 333 5
Amsterdam – Bangkok From 28OCT13 to 03DEC13, overall service increases from 7 to 8 weekly, and further expands to 10 weekly from 04DEC13. Operational day for KL877/878 as follow
28OCT13 – 03DEC13 772 Day 1 (Day 2 from BKK)
09DEC13 – 31JAN14 772 Day 135 (Day 246 from BKK)
01FEB14 – 28MAR14 772 Day 1 74E Day 35
KL877 AMS1435 – 0710+1BKK EQV 135
KL875 AMS1725 – 1000+1BKK 77W x145
KL875 AMS1725 – 1000+1BKK 772 145
KL878 BKK0925 – 1530AMS EQV 246
KL876 BKK1220 – 1825AMS 77W x256
KL876 BKK1220 – 1825AMS 772 256
KL875/876 Boeing 777-300ER (77W) operational days may vary
Amsterdam – Buenos Aires Boeing 777-300ER replaces -200ER, 3 weekly service
Amsterdam – Calgary Service to operate 6 weekly in Winter 2013, increased from 5 weekly in W12. A330-200 operating
Amsterdam – Havana Service increases from 3 to 4 weekly
KL723 AMS1045 – 1635HAV 332 x257
KL724 HAV1830 – 0900+1AMS 332 x257
Amsterdam – Hong Kong Operational schedule and flight number changes. Night-time departure moving to afternoon hours in both direction.
KL887 AMS1740 – 1150+1HKG 74E D
KL888 HKG1335 – 1905AMS 74E D
Amsterdam – Johannesburg 08DEC13 – 12FEB14 Boeing 777-300ER replaces -200ER on Day 37
Amsterdam – Lagos 15DEC13 – 05JAN14 A330-200 replaces -300 on Day 7
Amsterdam – Los Angeles 04MAR14 – 29MAR14 Boeing 747-400PAX replaces -400COMBI on Day 256 (Day 5 with 747PAX from 11MAR14)
Amsterdam – Mexico City 12DEC13 – 01FEB14 Service increases from 7 to 9 weekly
KL687 AMS1230 – 1715MEX 74E 46
KL685 AMS1435 – 1925MEX 74E D
KL688 MEX1915 – 1235+1AMS 74E 46
KL686 MEX2150 – 1510+1AMS 74E D
Amsterdam – Quito – Guayaquil – Amsterdam Service increases from 6 weekly to daily, 777-200ER operating
Amsterdam – San Francisco eff 12JAN14 Service reduces from daily to 6 weekly. MD11 and A330-200 operates this route
27OCT13 – 11JAN14 Daily service M11 Day 146 332 Day x146
12JAN14 – 27FEB14 5 weekly service M11 Day 46 332 Day 257
28FEB14 – 29MAR14 6 weekly service M11 Day 146 332 Day 257
Amsterdam – Seoul Incheon Operational schedule and flight number changes. Amsterdam departure moves from afternoon to late-evening, Seoul departure moves to midnight hours
KL855 AMS2120 – 1540+1ICN 74E D
KL856 ICN0055 – 0445AMS 74E D
Amsterdam – Taipei Taoyuan – Manila Operational day changes for Boeing 777-300ER aircraft (AMS departure listed below)
27OCT13 – 31JAN14 Day 135
01FEB14 – 29MAR14 Day 136
Amsterdam – Tokyo Narita
KL861/862 operational aircraft changes (AMS departure listed below)
27OCT13 – 06DEC13 744 Day 16 74E Day x156 772 Day 5
07DEC13 – 29MAR14 744 Day 16 74E Day x16
KL863/864 operates following frequencies in W13 (AMS departure)
27OCT13 – 05DEC13 772 Day 14
06DEC13 – 02MAR14 No operation
03MAR14 – 29MAR14 74E Day 1