Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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Tip: You can visit the Domeinen Soesterberg on monday October 3th between 8:30 - 16:00

More info: http://www.domeinenrz.nl/domeinenrz_nl/ ... 1f433a.php

Taking pictures is not allowed :-(

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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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Err... OK, I'd like to see this Starfighter, but am unable to be there tomorrow. Can anyone advise on an alternate way of seeing this aircraft? What's the Museum about, any opening times, website, other? Thanks in advance!

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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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Numbercruncher wrote:Err... OK, I'd like to see this Starfighter, but am unable to be there tomorrow. Can anyone advise on an alternate way of seeing this aircraft? What's the Museum about, any opening times, website, other? Thanks in advance!

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Seen these planes last Friday through the Museum but there is a way to see them from the outside but it takes a short walk through the threes..., if you follow the fence to the right from the entrance of the museum area (there's a Leopard tank behind the gate), the fance will move away from the road and at a certain point you pass the Technical Troops Museum and only approx 50 metres behind there is the location where the fencemoves to the right again and the aircraft are located in that corner (approx coordinates 52.07.21.83N / 5.18.37.70O). You might nog be able to read off the F-104's though, there packed together, D-8300 for example can only be read from the other side, so only from the museum area...
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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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Seen today was the D-8300, indeed from the museum area. They are at the back of the museum, stored against the fence. Other F-104's were D-8098 plus 1 (the one with special markings and a white serial, have to look up the serial at home if nobody beats me to it).
Furthermore there is NF-5A K-3029 plus the nose section of K-3045 (from memory, shall check this at home as well), four rear fuselages of NF-5's and the rear fuselage of F-84F P-248. The front part of this last one was not in the same area unfortunately, I still need this....

No use by the way to visit the Domeinen Kijkdag (viewing day), you don't get close to the aircraft and can't see them from the public area.
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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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And as promised, the missing F-104 is D-8338 marked as D-5805. The nose section of the Streak is indeed of K-3045 (and not K-3015 as EMOOS gives!).
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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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patrick dirksen wrote:And as promised, the missing F-104 is D-8338 marked as D-5805. The nose section of the Streak is indeed of K-3045 (and not K-3015 as EMOOS gives!).
K-3045 is (or rather was) an NF-5A, not a Streak...... :roll:
(but thanks for letting me/us know!)
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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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patrick dirksen wrote:Seen today was the D-8300, indeed from the museum area. They are at the back of the museum, stored against the fence. Other F-104's were D-8098 plus 1 (the one with special markings and a white serial, have to look up the serial at home if nobody beats me to it).
Furthermore there is NF-5A K-3029 plus the nose section of K-3045 (from memory, shall check this at home as well), four rear fuselages of NF-5's and the rear fuselage of F-84F P-248. The front part of this last one was not in the same area unfortunately, I still need this....

No use by the way to visit the Domeinen Kijkdag (viewing day), you don't get close to the aircraft and can't see them from the public area.
Hi patrick,

Is it possible to take pictures of the D-8300 and the other planes? Or only reading the numbers possible.

Thanks for your reply.

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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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PH-HEE wrote:
patrick dirksen wrote:Seen today was the D-8300, indeed from the museum area. They are at the back of the museum, stored against the fence. Other F-104's were D-8098 plus 1 (the one with special markings and a white serial, have to look up the serial at home if nobody beats me to it).
Furthermore there is NF-5A K-3029 plus the nose section of K-3045 (from memory, shall check this at home as well), four rear fuselages of NF-5's and the rear fuselage of F-84F P-248. The front part of this last one was not in the same area unfortunately, I still need this....

No use by the way to visit the Domeinen Kijkdag (viewing day), you don't get close to the aircraft and can't see them from the public area.
Hi patrick,

Is it possible to take pictures of the D-8300 and the other planes? Or only reading the numbers possible.

Thanks for your reply.

Hi Peter,

You can take pictures, but not for the beauty of them as all 3 F-104 are parked very close to the fence and all very close next to each other...

Regards,

Peter
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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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Great guys, thanks for all the info! :D

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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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K-3045 is (or rather was) an NF-5A, not a Streak......
Of course, doh. :cry:

"haastige spoed is zelden goed" :oops:

What has been troubling me with this one by the way, is that the great book on the NF-5 by Cor van Gent (De northrop NF-5, De geschiedenis van de NF-5 in Nederland) gives as fate for 3045: "15-10-'90 eigendomsoverdracht aan THK" or transferred to the Turkish Air Force. Didn't this happen, or did it come back?
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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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The K-3045...wasn't that the one that was for some time in use as an instructional aircraft at the HTS in Haarlem?
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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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patrick dirksen wrote:
K-3045 is (or rather was) an NF-5A, not a Streak......
Of course, doh. :cry:

"haastige spoed is zelden goed" :oops:

What has been troubling me with this one by the way, is that the great book on the NF-5 by Cor van Gent (De northrop NF-5, De geschiedenis van de NF-5 in Nederland) gives as fate for 3045: "15-10-'90 eigendomsoverdracht aan THK" or transferred to the Turkish Air Force. Didn't this happen, or did it come back?
Was a spares a/c only. It spent some time at Woensdrecht before being broken up for spares in April 1992. The remains went to the Fokker area at Woensdrecht in June 1992. It was then transferred to Haarlem.

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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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Iemand foto's van die schitterende oude vliegtuigen die door ons museum slecht worden behandeld?
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Re: Roadrunning F-104 near Soest

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Sinds 11 oktober is F-84F P-171 ook aanwezig bij de Domeinen. De P-171 is op Volkel omgewisseld voor de P-248, welke een toekomstige poortwachter gaat worden. De staart van de P-248 lag bij de Domeinen en de rest van de kist is afkomstig van de opslag van het MLM in Soesterberg.
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