Niederstetten 18t of September 2011

[DJdeRidder]

The Bo-105s all seem to be (ex?) KHR26/36 machines. Were they in active conditions or stored?

[Gerard]

All Bo105s mentioned were active, most of them participated in the flying display.

[Jon Snow]

Some additions to Gerard's list:

All noted inside the two hangars near the tower:
left hangar:
73+78 UH-1D
72+09 UH-1D
72+35 UH-1D

right hangar:
72+94 UH-1D
72+91 UH-1D
71+84 UH-1D
73+44 UH-1D
86+56 Bo-105
88+10 Bo-105
87+83 Bo-105
72+33 UH-1D parked outside

73+09 UH-1D Gateguard
77+11 Alouette 2 Gateguard

The yellow/black hulk marked Tobey is ex 73+46

Lutz

[Gerard]

Some additions to Gerard's list:

Oops, yes thanks. It looks like I skipped a page in my notes!

The yellow/black hulk marked Tobey is ex 73+46

All c/n-plates etc were removed. How did you identify it?

Thanks,
Gerard

[frank kramer]

The yellow/black hulk marked Tobey is ex 73+46

All c/n-plates etc were removed. How did you identify it?

Well, I don't know if it counts as a 100% identification, but that was the serial that was written (with a black felt-pen) on the inside of the right cockpit door... I logged it too, but with a BIG question mark...

[Wrecks]

The yellow/black hulk marked Tobey is ex 73+46

All c/n-plates etc were removed. How did you identify it?

Well, I don't know if it counts as a 100% identification, but that was the serial that was written (with a black felt-pen) on the inside of the right cockpit door... I logged it too, but with a BIG question mark...

I have some doubt if 73+46 is correct. This a/c was last noted al Ahlen.
However acc to a maintenance officer the serial of the yellow/black hulk is unknown.
It was specialy painted for the open day in these colours.
It came from a kaserne were it was used as para trainer.

Regards,

Otger

[jreijmer]

An overview of what was present on the 18th of September:
Static
Bo-105P1 87+29 nb (KHR26)
Bo-105P1 demod 87+72 THR30
UH-1D 72+39,72+49 THR30
UH-1D 72+41,73+24 nb
UH-1D 72+67 THR30
CH-53GS 84+30 nb
AB.212 5D-HX lTHSSta spec c/s
C-130K 8T-CA LuTrSt
OH-58B 3C-OK MzHSSt spec c/s
A109BA H44 Wing Heli
Mi-171Sh 9813 231vrl
Mi-24V 7353 221lbvr
SH-2G 163544 28elMW
CH-47F 07-08744 5-158th AVN
UH-60L 97-26766 3-158th AVN
AH-64D 02-05299 ?-159th AVN
UH-1D (72+75) nn on trailer

Hangar 2
UH-1D 72+94 THR30
UH-1D 71+84,72+91,73+44 nb
UH-1D 72+33 THR30 outside
Bo-105P1 demod 86+56,87+83,88+10 nb

Hangar 5
UH-1D 71+72,73+16,73+30,73+38 nb

Hangar 6
UH-1D 72+32,72+96,73+43,73+59,73+74,73+76 THR30

Hangar 8
UH-1D 72+09,72+35,73+78 nb

Hangar ?
UH-1D MAT 98+98 WTD61
Tiger UHT 74+18 nb

Flightline/Flying
Bo-105P1 86+63,87+19,87+90 nb
Bo-105P1 87+17 KHR26
Bo-105P1 demod 87+03 THR30
EC135T1 82+62 HFWS
CH-53GS 84+62 MTHR25
CH-53GS 85+10 nb
UH-1D 72+45(1),73+12(2),72+20(3),73+37(4) THR30
UH-1D 72+37(5),72+61(6),72+88(7),72+83(8) THR30
UH-1D 73+65(9),73+52(10) THR30
UH-1D 71+36 nb SAR
NH90-TTH 78+04 HFWS
AB.212 5D-HN lTHSSta
S-70A-42 6M-BA mTHSSta
AS.532UL T-334 LtGw2
Tiger UHT 98+17 WTD61

Gerard; did you check all the UH-1D in hangar 6 if they had THR30 markings? There is a picture of them on FF and on this picture, no batch could be seen.

I seem to have missed the following from the list of Gerard of the 17th. 72+86,72+30
Could someone clearify were I missed these 2?

Also nice to see was the temporary airfield "Segelflugplatz Leuzendorf". This was used before the morning and afternoon demonstration flights as remote airfield.

Thanks,
Jeroen

[Jon Snow]

I seem to have missed the following from the list of Gerard of the 17th. 72+86,72+30
Could someone clearify were I missed these 2?
Thanks,
Jeroen

These two UH-1 were parked on the northern side of the airfield, on the left side of the Precision Approach Radar. They both did not fly on saturday.

Lutz

[mailman]

@ Jon Snow and/or jreijmer:

Did you read the serials in hangar 2 from the inside or the outside?
We read Bo105 88+02 instead of 88+10, but that can be a mistake on our side...
And UH1 73+44: We asked a technician who just came out of the hangar what the complete serial was of UH1 ..+44, and he said it was 71+44...

Any help on these serials would be highly appreciated!

Edit: problems solved. Bo150 was mix up in a notebook, and UH1 was a mistake by a technician...

[Gerard]

Gerard; did you check all the UH-1D in hangar 6 if they had THR30 markings? There is a picture of them on FF and on this picture, no batch could be seen.

I have written them as such in my notes, but to be honest I cannot remember.

Gerard

[Eric van Lisdonk]

@ Jon Snow and/or jreijmer:

Did you read the serials in hangar 2 from the inside or the outside?
We read Bo105 88+02 instead of 88+10, but that can be a mistake on our side...
And UH1 73+44: We asked a technician who just came out of the hangar what the complete serial was of UH1 ..+44, and he said it was 71+44...

Any help on these serials would be highly appreciated!

Edit: problems solved. Bo150 was mix up in a notebook, and UH1 was a mistake by a technician...

71+44 is not correct. C/N 8464 was read off from this +44 UH-1D so that makes 73+44 for this one.

Cheers,
Eric

[HueyRob]

I have some doubt if 73+46 is correct. This a/c was last noted al Ahlen.
However acc to a maintenance officer the serial of the yellow/black hulk is unknown.
It was specialy painted for the open day in these colours.
It came from a kaserne were it was used as para trainer.

Regards,

Otger

Hi @ all:

The yellow/black »TOBEY«'s correct Ser.No. is 72+89 (Bu.No.8409). It has been used at Mittenwald Bks before as a groundtrainer for loading purposes. Mittenwald has recieved another (better) airframe in exchange.

Hope that helps. If you have any other questions regarding German HUEYs, feel free to ask.

Cheers,
ROB