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Request: Dutchmil ICF and TB-6

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Some years ago before the big change in NATO ( UHF ) frequencies 242.1500Mhz and 268.4000Mhz were the Dutchmil Initial Contact Frequencies ( ICF ).
Nowadays I think they are 240.9000Mhz and 397.275Mhz, but after all this time still got no confirmation of this.
Q. TB-6 : Westbound Military Airtraffic route Milgi ( Bruggen ) > Navpi > EA-1 ( Coltishall ) and furtheron. Since some time Eastbound Traffic can route
Navpi > ( VKL ( Volkel )) > NOLRU ( DE- Waypoint near Walbeck village ) and afterwards a more SSE heading for RS, SP or Southern Europe.
My question is, is the Navpi > Nolru track also called TB-6 ?
Can someone clarify those two questions. Thanks in advance

PS : Anybody knows if and where the official DoD Supplement ENAME can still be obtained.
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Re: Request: Dutchmil ICF and TB-6

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CONDOR wrote:Some years ago before the big change in NATO ( UHF ) frequencies 242.1500Mhz and 268.4000Mhz were the Dutchmil Initial Contact Frequencies ( ICF ).
Nowadays I think they are 240.9000Mhz and 397.275Mhz, but after all this time still got no confirmation of this.
Q. TB-6 : Westbound Military Airtraffic route Milgi ( Bruggen ) > Navpi > EA-1 ( Coltishall ) and furtheron. Since some time Eastbound Traffic can route
Navpi > ( VKL ( Volkel )) > NOLRU ( DE- Waypoint near Walbeck village ) and afterwards a more SSE heading for RS, SP or Southern Europe.
My question is, is the Navpi > Nolru track also called TB-6 ?
Can someone clarify those two questions. Thanks in advance

PS : Anybody knows if and where the official DoD Supplement ENAME can still be obtained.
TB6 route is changed indeed (in Germany) believe DIBIR is now entry point for Dutch FIR however :
Seems following routes are flown regurlarly
Westbound Milgi / Dibir -> VKL -> Navpi -> EA1 -> MAM
Eastbound : Navpi-VKL-Nolru

Freqs in use explained here

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Re: Request: Dutchmil ICF and TB-6

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TB6 runs from Lechfeld (LCH) in Germany to SPT in England.
The portion over The Netherlands runs from NOLRU in Germany via VKL (Volkel) to NAVPI on the NL/UK boundary.
Finally, it is a 2-way airway, so no difference between Eastbound or Westbound!
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Maybe this helps: http://tinyurl.com/3pgdb5j.
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Re: Request: Dutchmil ICF and TB-6

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Thanks all. So TB-6 did shift a bit to the north compaired to some years ago. Still a lot of RS and SP departures use MILGI for short cut,
or to separate traffic.
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Re: Request: Dutchmil ICF and TB-6

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CONDOR wrote:Thanks all. So TB-6 did shift a bit to the north compaired to some years ago. Still a lot of RS and SP departures use MILGI for short cut,
or to separate traffic.
In my Military Air Traffic Control days TB6 routed BGG (Bruggen, now closed :cry: ), YBR (Ypenburg, closed long ago :cry: ) and finally MC6....
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Re: Request: Dutchmil ICF and TB-6

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For anyone who likes to know, I have the current situation of all mil traffic from or to NAVPI via TB6.

Not available for traffic
a. Monday to Friday 0500-2200 winter (-1 hr summer)
1. Dep. ETAR except via SID-TOLEY-Q760-NOR-DCT-MILGI-DCT-
VKL-TB6
2. Dest ETAR except via NOLRU-TB6-MOSUG-T911-LIPMI-UBENO-N850-
RINEX-Z97-MANEM-Q762-FRANK-DCT
3. Dep. ETAD except via ROPUV-Q760-NOR-DCT-MILGI-DCT-VKL-
TB6
4. Dest ETAD except via NOLRU-TB6-MOSUG-T911-LIPMI-T150-
RUDUS-Z656-IDOVI-Z104-ODVUX-DCT-ROPUVDCT-
WEZEL-DCT-SPA-DCT
5. Dep. EDDS Type MIL except via VESID-Y127-TUDGA-Z738-
NOKDI-Z104-ODVUX-Q760-NOR-DCT-MILGI-DCT-VKL-TB6
6. Dest. EDDS Type MIL except via NOR-Q760-ROPUV-L607-
RUDUS-Z738-UBENO-N850-KRH-T128-BADSO
7. Dep. ETOU except via MASIR-DCT-DITAM-DCT-OBOKA-DCT-
BIBTI-DCT-MILGI-DCT-VKL
8. Dest. ETOU except via NOLRU-TB6-MOSUG-T911-LIPMI-T150-
ROLIS-DCT-ETARU-DCT-MTR-DCT

b. Monday to Thursday 2200-0500 winter (-1hr summer) Friday 2200
to Monday 0500 (-1hr summer) & Public Holidays
1. Dep. ETAR except via SID-TOLEY-DCT-IDARO-Q760-NOR-DCT-
MILGI
2. Dest. ETAR except via NOLRU-TB6-MOSUG-T911-LIPMI-UBENO-N850-
RINEX-Z97-MANEM-Q762-FRANK-DCT
3. Dep. ETAD except via ROPUV-Q760-NOR-DCT-MILGI
4. Dest. ETAD except via NOLRU-TB6-MOSUG-T911-LIPMI-T150-
RUDUS-Z656-IDOVI-Z104-ODVUX-DCT-ROPUV-DCT-
WEZEL-DCT-SPA-DCT
5. Dep. EDDS Type MIL except via VESID-Y127-TUDGA-Z738-
NOKDI-Z104-ODVUX-Q760-NOR-DCT-MILGI
6. Dest. EDDS Type MIL except via NOR-Q760-ROPUV-L607-
RUDUS-Z738-UBENO-N850-KRH-T128-BADSO
7. Dep. ETOU except via MASIR-DCT-DITAM-DCT-OBOKA-DCT-
BIBTI-DCT-MILGI
8. Dest. ETOU except via NOLRU-TB6-MOSUG-T911-LIPMI-T150-
ROLIS-DCT-ETARU-DCT-MTR-DCT
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