EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
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- Redskin
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Als een toestel een noodlanding zou hebben gemaakt (enmergency) zou er ook een p2000 melding van moeten zijn voor de brandweer e.d. (moeten nl uitrukken voor het geval dat).
Dus als er geen p2000 melding is was het in ieder geval geen emergency.
Dus als er geen p2000 melding is was het in ieder geval geen emergency.
Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Die conclusie is niet juist. Niet voor iedere voorzorgslanding worden er hulpdiensten via P2000 gealarmeerd.Redskin wrote: Dus als er geen p2000 melding is was het in ieder geval geen emergency.
Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Is allemaal afhankelijk van de emergency. Which brings to mind: heeft de oorspronkelijke luisteraar een PAN PAN PAN gehoord of een MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY?Luamax wrote:Die conclusie is niet juist. Niet voor iedere voorzorgslanding worden er hulpdiensten via P2000 gealarmeerd.
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Standaardprocedure bij o.a een voorzorgslanding op de vliegbasis GilzeRijen , wordt altijd het GMK in Tilburg in kennis gesteld en daarnaast wordt automatisch de OvD West-oost gealameerd !
Zie oud voorbeeld: PRIO 1 6894 VLIEGBASIS GILZE RIJEN RIJKSWEG 121 RIJEN STAND BY CALL (scenario: 0) contact GMK
Zie oud voorbeeld: PRIO 1 6894 VLIEGBASIS GILZE RIJEN RIJKSWEG 121 RIJEN STAND BY CALL (scenario: 0) contact GMK
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Heren,
Heel het verhaal is voorgelegd bij de mensen op de verkeerstoren op gilze en zij weten van niks.
Er is geen Spaanse Falcon geweest!
Grz,
Gijs
Heel het verhaal is voorgelegd bij de mensen op de verkeerstoren op gilze en zij weten van niks.
Er is geen Spaanse Falcon geweest!
Grz,
Gijs
"GIPS"
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- Katabatik
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
The question that has not been answered yet and that is key to me is the following :
What landed on monday 17th around 15.00 on rwy 28 ?
We are told that it is not a spanish falcon. Fine. I can live with it because I am not certain either about the type (first thing I wrote in my report). But I witnessed a white aircraft (falcon like) landing. What is it then ?
Luamax, wrote " Nothing extraordinary landed at Gilze monday 17-01-2011. I do not have the ability to see if an aircraft made an approach though.". Could you share then with us which ordinary/regular aircraft(s) landed around the aforementioned time slot ? Perhaps something would come real close to what I observed ...
If you pull all your strings, leverage all your connections, all the people you know and the answer is : nothing, absolutely no aircraft landed at the aforementioned time ... then I am afraid that either we are not told the truth ...classified ... or we are not talking to the right people (which I tend to think is not the case).
What landed on monday 17th around 15.00 on rwy 28 ?
We are told that it is not a spanish falcon. Fine. I can live with it because I am not certain either about the type (first thing I wrote in my report). But I witnessed a white aircraft (falcon like) landing. What is it then ?
Luamax, wrote " Nothing extraordinary landed at Gilze monday 17-01-2011. I do not have the ability to see if an aircraft made an approach though.". Could you share then with us which ordinary/regular aircraft(s) landed around the aforementioned time slot ? Perhaps something would come real close to what I observed ...
If you pull all your strings, leverage all your connections, all the people you know and the answer is : nothing, absolutely no aircraft landed at the aforementioned time ... then I am afraid that either we are not told the truth ...classified ... or we are not talking to the right people (which I tend to think is not the case).
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Ik weet niet wat je hebt gezien, maar 2 dingen weet ik nu zeker:
1. er is niets GELAND, misschien heb je een touch&go gezien....
2. er was zeker geen emergency en zeker geen Spaanse Falcon 900.
In ieder geval is je verhaal van redelijk stellig overtuigd afgezakt naar een verhaal dat als los zand uit elkaar is gevallen.
De moraal van dit verhaal: doe nooit geen aannames en ga nooit gokken.
Ik bedenk ineens iets heel anders, heb jij niet iets over zien vliegen (richting Eindhoven of zo) en ben je er toen van uitgegaan dat hij in de landing zat voor runway 28 (op down-wind)?
Of nog een mogelijkheid......heb je een touch and go van onze eigen KLu Gulfstream meegemaakt? (ik weet niet of die gevlogen heeft afgelopen maandag).
1. er is niets GELAND, misschien heb je een touch&go gezien....
2. er was zeker geen emergency en zeker geen Spaanse Falcon 900.
In ieder geval is je verhaal van redelijk stellig overtuigd afgezakt naar een verhaal dat als los zand uit elkaar is gevallen.
De moraal van dit verhaal: doe nooit geen aannames en ga nooit gokken.
Ik bedenk ineens iets heel anders, heb jij niet iets over zien vliegen (richting Eindhoven of zo) en ben je er toen van uitgegaan dat hij in de landing zat voor runway 28 (op down-wind)?
Of nog een mogelijkheid......heb je een touch and go van onze eigen KLu Gulfstream meegemaakt? (ik weet niet of die gevlogen heeft afgelopen maandag).
- vuurwerkreeshof
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Op Eindhoven stond die dag wel een Embraer van de Belgische luchtmacht (CE-04) gepland, waarschijnlijk heeft deze dan een low pass of touch & go gemaakt over het veld?
Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call ?
Just curious: what exact frequencies were you scanning at the time?Katabatik wrote:This is the spanish falcon you are talking about. So to clarify, I SAW IT because I was watching rwy 28 (from the slopes) with the binocular and was listening AT THE SAME TIME on the scanner.
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
As I feel some of you have not pulled out early conclusions yet and still want to know the truth, I will answer them :
- I saw the aircraft approaching from the east aligned on rwy 28 all lights on.
- it was not a low pass because I saw it 'touching-landing' the runway.
- I could see only part of the runway where I was standing (far end east of the slope fence).
- I would not know what it did after it went out of sight ... for the simple reason that I went far end west of the slope fence to catch the Apache.
- my scanner is tuned on EHGR freq. published on http://www.milscan.nl/Europe/Netherlands.html (plus some found of this forum) and has been working fine since I bought it.
- I knew the aircraft was coming on rwy 28 because I heard air traffic control mentioning it on the scanner. That's why I started to look at in this direction and spotted it.
Thanks for helping. I appreciate.
PS : if we end up in a dead end street, no worry, hope you had as much fun as I had speculating and searching.
- I saw the aircraft approaching from the east aligned on rwy 28 all lights on.
- it was not a low pass because I saw it 'touching-landing' the runway.
- I could see only part of the runway where I was standing (far end east of the slope fence).
- I would not know what it did after it went out of sight ... for the simple reason that I went far end west of the slope fence to catch the Apache.
- my scanner is tuned on EHGR freq. published on http://www.milscan.nl/Europe/Netherlands.html (plus some found of this forum) and has been working fine since I bought it.
- I knew the aircraft was coming on rwy 28 because I heard air traffic control mentioning it on the scanner. That's why I started to look at in this direction and spotted it.
Thanks for helping. I appreciate.
PS : if we end up in a dead end street, no worry, hope you had as much fun as I had speculating and searching.
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Maybe I'm reaching here, but is for example 122.100 MHz (AM) programmed in your scanner, 257.800, 362.300, etc?Katabatik wrote:- my scanner is tuned on EHGR freq. published on http://www.milscan.nl/Europe/Netherlands.html (plus some found of this forum) and has been working fine since I bought it.
== All is well, as long as we keep spinning ==
Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Checked again today, including the approaches. I checked around 15.00 in local and Zulu time, and the only fixed wing that made an approach at that time was a RNLAF PC-7. Other then that is was just the usual: Apaches, Alouettes and Chinooks.Katabatik wrote: Luamax, wrote " Nothing extraordinary landed at Gilze monday 17-01-2011. I do not have the ability to see if an aircraft made an approach though.". Could you share then with us which ordinary/regular aircraft(s) landed around the aforementioned time slot ? Perhaps something would come real close to what I observed ...
Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Ik zat er gisteren nog aan te denken: ik denk dat Katabatik zo gefixeerd/gestressed was op die Apache dat hij in een ooghoek een witte touringcar (die rijden er ook weleens rond) heeft aangezien voor een vliegtuig (en dit is geen grap !!).
- blu109
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Wat een opwinding zeg, op het anders oersaaie gilze rijen.
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Re: EHGR 17-01-2011 - Emergency call for Spanish Falcon
Ach, wie weet wordt het op Leeuwarden over een paar jaar nog veeeeeeeeeeeeel saaier...blu109 wrote:Wat een opwinding zeg, op het anders oersaaie gilze rijen.