The Dutch airliner delivery thread

flying_kiwi · Post by **flying_kiwi** » 13 Nov 2008, 20:40

cHabu wrote: Update: PH-MJL (11527); active, white with titles / logo. (for a 5 months dry lease.)

Due to be returned to lessor next week.

Regards,
Yorden

B767-300ER · Post by **B767-300ER** » 13 Nov 2008, 21:53

Chris,

Little correction on your list..

ArkeFly's B737-800 deliveru delayed till Feb 2009 do to Boeing Strikes in september and oktober

Martinairs B763 PH-MCJ will continu flying for MP because they can't get rid of its lease contract (too expensive to buy it of) . First 2 763 that will be phased out /wfu will be the PH-MCG and the PH-MCH...
Further Fleet-changes depending on what will be decided in "brussel" aprox jan 2009....

toppiero · Post by **toppiero** » 13 Nov 2008, 22:18

you mean or klm is allowed to take over Martinair

B767-300ER · Post by **B767-300ER** » 13 Nov 2008, 22:29

toppiero wrote:you mean or klm is allowed to take over Martinair

Yes, after that MP makes further plans for their fleet-changes
for now, the MCG and the MCH will be the first 2 that wil leave the fleet
Afther that, its all into what Brussel says

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 14 Nov 2008, 00:10

slight edit, you know why!

B767-300ER wrote:...for now, the MCG and the MCH will be the first 2 that wil leave the fleet

Any dates to go with this info ?

Curious if PH-MCG is still on the wanted list by Boeing...

Slightly off-topic but are PH-ILA and PH-ILI still at AMS ?
If not, when did they depart AMS and to where ?

Thanks guys !

B767-300ER · Post by **B767-300ER** » 14 Nov 2008, 07:20

cHabu wrote:Any dates to go with this info ?

Curious if PH-MCG is still on the wanted list by Boeing...

Somewhere in 2009,Don't know the exact date for now.
If I have a date, I will inform you directly...
PH-MCG is indeed wanted bij Boeing

mipo72 · Post by **mipo72** » 14 Nov 2008, 07:46

B767-300ER wrote: PH-MCG is indeed wanted bij Boeing

What's the reason "Boeing" want's this aircraft????...........}

Grt,
Michel

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 14 Nov 2008, 13:04

mipo72 wrote:
B767-300ER wrote: PH-MCG is indeed wanted bij Boeing
What's the reason "Boeing" want's this aircraft????...........}

Boeing 767 with the most cycles, if i'm correct.

I have been told Boeing would like to research this aircraft.

B767-300ER · Post by **B767-300ER** » 14 Nov 2008, 20:03

cHabu wrote:
mipo72 wrote:
B767-300ER wrote: PH-MCG is indeed wanted bij Boeing
What's the reason "Boeing" want's this aircraft????...........}
Boeing 767 with the most cycles, if i'm correct.

I have been told Boeing would like to research this aircraft.

Not only the most cycles...
Its the B763 with the most flying-hours of the world also....

flying_kiwi · Post by **flying_kiwi** » 18 Nov 2008, 17:02

cHabu wrote:Fokker 70:

PH-KZS ex AFR-Regional F-GLIS (11540) - oo 4Q 2008
PH-KZT ex AFR-Regional F-GLIT (11541) - oo Feb 2009
PH-KZU ex AFR-Regional F-GLIU (11543) - oo 4Q 2008
PH-KZV ex AFR-Regional F-GLIV (11556) - oo 4Q 2008
PH-KZW ex AFR-Regional F-GLIX (11558) - oo Dec 2008

NOTE: PH-KZW registered as such on Oct. 27th.

PH-KZW acceptance flight scheduled for tomorrow, and ferry to QAPS on Thursday.

Regards,
Yorden

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 23 Nov 2008, 20:07

.

Nov. 23rd: KLM fleet info added (credit: 'op de bok' magazine, Nov08 issue & Luchtvaartnieuws.nl).

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AMS/EHAM

Amsterdam Airlines

Airbus A320-214:

PH-AAX - (0430) ; in service, operating (sub-)charters.

NOTE: is using code "AAN".

KLM Cityhopper

Embraer 190:

PH-EZA (19000224)
PH-EZB oo Dec 2008 (19000235)
PH-EZC oo Feb 2009
PH-EZD oo Apr 2009
PH-EZE oo Jun 2009
PH-EZF oo Aug 2009
PH-EZG oo Oct 2009
PH-EZH oo Dec 2009
PH-EZI oo Jan 2010
PH-EZK oo Mar 2010

Order included nine (9) options for Emb190's.

This order is to replace the oldest 15 KLC Fokker 100 aircraft.

Fokker 50:

PH-KVD - wfu aprox 09-2008

Note:* Fleet replacement scheduled within two years.

WFU date postponed due to additional F70/100 maintenance.

Fokker 70:

PH-KZS ex AFR-Regional F-GLIS (11540) - oo 4Q 2008
PH-KZT ex AFR-Regional F-GLIT (11541) - oo Feb 2009
PH-KZU ex AFR-Regional F-GLIU (11543) - oo 4Q 2008
PH-KZV ex AFR-Regional F-GLIV (11556) - oo 4Q 2008
PH-KZW ex AFR-Regional F-GLIX (11558) - oo Dec 2008

NOTE: PH-KZW registered as such on Oct. 27th, being painted @ AMS.

Fokker 100:

The ordered Emb190s and five Fokker 70s are to replace the 15 oldest Fokker 100s...

PH-MJL returned to lessor, Nov. 2008.

KLM

Boeing 737-7K2:

PH-BGD - (30366/2675); active.
PH-BGE - (30371/2705); active.
PH-BGF - oo 1Q 2009 (30365/2714)
PH-BGG - oo 1q 2009 (30367)
PH-BGH - oo Feb 10 (38053)
PH-BGI - oo Mar 10 (30364)
PH-BGK - oo Apr 10 (38054)
PH-BGL - oo Aug 10 (30369)
PH-BGM - oo Mar 11 (39255)
PH-BGN - oo Jun 11 (39256)
PH-BGO - oo Sep 11 (39257)
PH-BGR - oo Sep 11 (38634)
PH-BGT - oo Oct 11 (38635)

PH-... - option

(will be winglet equiped.)

Name info:

PH-BGD Goudhaantje /Goldcrest
PH-BGE Ortolaan / Ortolan Bunting
PH-BGF Grote Zilverreiger /Great White Egret
PH-BGG Koningseider /King Eider

Credit: Piet Luijken.

Boeing 737-800:

all deliverd & active.

737classic WFU data:

-300 PH-BDC 4Q 2009, due to KLM Cityhopper ops.
-300 PH-BDA 4Q 2009, due to KLM Cityhopper ops.
-300 PH-BDD 4Q 2009, due to KLM Cityhopper ops.
-400 PH-BDR 2Q 2009

PH-BDA, BDD and BDR are going to fly for KLM Cityhopper.
(During maintenance [oct08/nov08] BDA and BDC, will be repainted in the latest KLM colors.)

Note:* last classic 737 to be wfu aprox 2010/2011.

Airbus A330-200:

PK-AOM - oo May 2010
PH-AON - oo Apr 2011

PH-... option
PH-... option

(Thanks to an anonimous source !)

Boeing 777-300ER:

PH-BVA - (35671) active
PH-BVB - (36145) active
PH-BVC - oo 4Q 2009 (37582)
PH-BVD - oo 4Q 2009 (35979)
PH-BVF - oo Mar 2010 (35947)
PH-BVG - oo Nov 2011 (38867)

PH-... - option
PH-... - option
PH-... - option
PH-... - option

Note:* 10 777-300s will replace the 8 full pax B747-400s.

Note:* The B747-400combi's will be replaced by either A350 or B787 (300 seats version).

Boeing 744F:

PH-CKD - (35233/1344); active.

* = as stated by Peter Hartman in November 2008.

Transavia

Boeing 737-7K2:

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Boeing 737-8K2:

PH-HSW (37160) oo spring 2009
PH-HS. oo 2010
PH-HS. oo 2010
PH-HS. oo 2011
PH-HS. oo 2011
PH-HS. oo 2012
PH-HS. oo 2012

+ 3 options, if converted to order:

PH-HS. oo 2014
PH-HS. oo 2014
PH-HS. oo 2014

2008/2009 transavia winter leases:

PH-HZE to Sunwing Airlines, dep. AMS on Nov. 11th as SWG9011 to YYZ.

PH-HZN to Carribean Airlines, dep. AMS on Nov. 12th as HV059 to POS via YYR.

Transavia (France)

Boeing 737-800:

F-GZHD B737-8K2w (29650/2583) active [Babcock & Brown]
F-GZHE B737-8K2w (29678/2615) active [Babcock & Brown]

NOTE: is using code 'TO / TVF'.

Martinair

A330-200:

10x oo ?

Boeing 767-300:

PH-MCG to be wfu
PH-MCH to be wfu

Arkefly

Boeing 737-800:

PH-TFA - (35100/2424) -8K5; active

PH-TFB - (35149/XXXX) -8K5: Februari 2009

PH-TFC - (XXXXX/XXXX) -8K5: aprox 12/2009

...... has reserved the following registrations:

PH-TFD
PH-TFE
PH-TFF
PH-TUI

Credit: Airnieuws / Herman Dekker.

=> Info / tie-up to type / msn will be listed above.

KLPD (Police air wing, Schiphol-east)

EC135P2+:

PH-PXA - (0760) oo 2009
PH-PXB - (0784) oo 2009
PH-PXC - (0795) oo 2009
PH-PXD - (0798) oo 2009
PH-PXE - (0807) oo 2009
PH-PXF - (0809) oo 2009

AW139:

PH-PXY - (31267) oo 2009
PH-PXZ - (31250) oo 2009

Credit: Airnieuws / Herman Dekker.

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RTM/EHRD:

VLM Airlines

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MST/EHBK:

Interstate Airlines

ATR42:

PH-ISA[/url] - (532); active.

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On the aviationphotos forum, there's also a fleet-list with 'color' updates, etc.
The thread can be found here.

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B767-300ER · Post by **B767-300ER** » 23 Nov 2008, 20:29

Chris,

In a article on "Luchtvaartnieuws.nl" Peter Hartman says that KLM's 3rd B737-700 will come not earlier then Feb 2009 and the 3rd B777-300ER will come after the holidays in 2009. The article was on Luchtvaartnieuws.nl on 21-11-2008. I don't know the credibility of luchtvaartnieuws.nl...

The article can be read here

The earlier mentioned order of 10 MP A330 is not an issue. The only thing that is known is that de PH-MCG and the PH-MCH will WFU somewhere in 2009. (already mentioned by you

) Ordering new aircraft will be based on what "Brussel" says in Januari 2009 about taken over martinair by KLM. After that date there well be make a descission about "new" aircraft. For now, nothing is ordered.

ArkeFly's PH-TFC will be a B737-8K5WL and will be delivered in 2009. I have heard in the WIS ("Wandelgangen-Informatie-Systeem") that it will be delivered before summer 2009, but I can't confirm that beacause I have not heard it from an official source.

Greetz

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 23 Nov 2008, 20:40

B767-300ER wrote:I don't know the credibility of luchtvaartnieuws.nl...

Well, that article states "while presenting the annual (financial) overview" so i assume this is correct.

Missed it, so i'll ammend what is possible.

B767-300ER wrote:The earlier mentioned order of 10 MP A330 is not an issue.

Correct, we'll have to wait for 'Brussels' but i'll leave it as stated for now.

B767-300ER wrote:ArkeFly's PH-TFC will be a B737-8K5WL and will be delivered in 2009. I have heard in the WIS ("Wandelgangen-Informatie-Systeem") that it will be delivered before summer 2009, but I can't confirm that because I have not heard it from an official source.

Will ammend... Confirmation would be welcome...

Thx, Chris.

B767-300ER · Post by **B767-300ER** » 23 Nov 2008, 20:48

cHabu wrote:

B767-300ER wrote:ArkeFly's PH-TFC will be a B737-8K5WL and will be delivered in 2009. I have heard in the WIS ("Wandelgangen-Informatie-Systeem") that it will be delivered before summer 2009, but I can't confirm that because I have not heard it from an official source.
Will ammend... Confirmation would be welcome...

Thx, Chris.

The only confirmation I can gave you that it is for sure de PH-TFC will be delivered aprox. dec 2009 and it will be a 737-8K5 WL-equipped. I will post the exact date here when i know it for sure! Only Rumours said it will be before summer 2009

Edit: you forgot to change the B737-700's of KLM?
And the PH-BVC will not come later than the PH-BVD I assume

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 23 Nov 2008, 21:59

B767-300ER wrote:Edit: you forgot to change the B737-700's of KLM?

I know these have been delayed, but no concrete info.