ILA Berlin 27 May - 1 June

Wim · Post by **Wim** » 26 May 2008, 16:55

Does anybody knows the route and date of the Indian Druv's that going from ILA to Biggin hill?

wamovements · Post by **wamovements** » 26 May 2008, 17:31

jaah wrote:Hi

I have two questions I hope you can help we with.

1. Is the doors to the showground not open before 10.00?

2. Will ILA not publicise a program for the flying display?

Thanks in advance.

1. As far as I know, gates open at 8
2. I have seen only one for press purposes. As this one is subject to change all day.You can ask one at tent 5 (they are behind the door on the left)

Regards
Dennis

wamovements · Post by **wamovements** » 26 May 2008, 17:32

Wim wrote:Does anybody knows the route and date of the Indian Druv's that going from ILA to Biggin hill?

Will ask them tomorrow. (I think you prefer Koksijde

)

aviodromefriend · Post by **aviodromefriend** » 26 May 2008, 17:35

jaah wrote:Hi

I have two questions I hope you can help we with.

1. Is the doors to the showground not open before 10.00?

2. Will ILA not publicise a program for the flying display?

Thanks in advance.

1. No, they are german, so sticking to the rules, consider it a bonus as it opens up 15 minutes earlier. Tickets can be purchased earlier, but after that you're held in other area's away from the planes

2. Program is decided the evening before each day, Leaflets are handed out at the showground. Further it should be published after 20.00 hour at the ILA website

wamovements · Post by **wamovements** » 26 May 2008, 18:33

Today was again an arrival day for some aircraft, as well als display rehearsel.

After my message from yesterday C-17A 96-0006 arrived and trav exhibit 7501 as well.

Let me start with (for me) some interesting civil aircraft (new ones compared to yestarday/all arrival today)

F-WWDB A320 659 DLR/Airbus Fuel cell Compensator
F-WWDD A380 (c/n 004) arr +rehearsel now (17:40)
F-WWYZ A330 Jet Airways arr
D-ADAM VFW-614 DLR arr
D-HFHS EC135 DLR
D-HAXS Sa330J Helog arr (c/n 1573)
D-CXXX C-47A arr

And now all military movements

10+25 A-310 FBS BMvG arr 12:00
3032 EF2000 JG73
3025 EF2000 JG74
3020 EF2000T JG73
3035 EF2000T JG73
3789 F-4F JG71
4x Tornado JBG33 (buddy-Buddy)
4523 Tornado IDS JBG31 +3
4557 Tornado IDS AG51 +1
4636 Tornado ECR JBG32
4643 Tornado ECR JBG32
5071 C-160D nn
5094 C-160D nn
7070 UH-1D LTG62 arr 09:20 SAR
7087 UH-1D LTG63
7101 UH-1D LTG63
7155 UH-1D LTG63 arr
7218 UH-!D THR-30
7250 UH-1D THR-30
7291 UH-1D THR10 arr 09:48 dep 09:55 arr 13:42 dep 17:10
7376 UH-1D THR-10 arr 11:32
7405 EC665 EFAL
7406 EC665 EFAL
7409 EC665 EFAL
9826 EC665 Eurocopter rehearsal
7807 NH90 HFWS
7808 NH90 HFWS
8413 CH-53G HFWS rehearsal
8417 CH-53G nn
8435 CH-53G nn
8439 CH-53G nn
8442 CH-53GS nn'
8443 CH-53G nn
8474 CH-53G nn
8484 CH-53G nn
8491 CH-53GS nn
8495 CH-53G nn
8500 CH-53GS HFWS arr
8508 CH-53G nn
8654 Bo105 nn arr/dep
8752 Bo105 arr/dep
8776 Bo105 nn
327/7-HZ RafaleC Ec01.007
2552/SE EC725 EH01.067 arr 14:40
406 An26 59TFW
714 Mi-24V 86HB
42 Jas39D 59TFW Hung AF arr 17:20
J-4042 Dhruv rehearsal
J-4049 Dhruv rehearsal
J-4050 Dhruv rehearsal
J-4063 Dhruv rehearsal
86-0140 B-1B 9th BS rehearsal
92-0375 C-20H 76th AS
96-0006 C-17A 437AMW/14AS rehearsal
D-CBIG Be1900D Swiis Air Force (UE-288) arr/dep

aircraft in bold were part of today SNAP2008. I do miss some JBG31 and JBG33 Tornadoes as they were flying to high (or a bit to fast

)

Tomorrow will be my last day at the ILA. Will publish a report on wednesday. As I am checking this board tomorrow morning for the last time (while I am here), I am still able to answer your questions.

wamovements · Post by **wamovements** » 27 May 2008, 07:07

Planned at 2240 yesterday, and confrimed arrived at 0630 is 86-0201, C-20B 89th AW

Regards
Dennis

wamovements · Post by **wamovements** » 27 May 2008, 10:29

Will leave the ILA in a few minutes, as nothing interesting (for me) is gonna happen today.

This morning a few additional arrivals:
89-2030/AV, 88-0491/AV F-16C 510FS
7155 UH-1D
8752 Bo105

Furthermore, PdS will arrive today at 1145 and at 1212 4x F-4F will make a fly by. After that the flying programm will start with aircraf talready present at ILA Ground. Tonight or tomorrow a secon B-1B will arrive, but ETA is unknown at the moment. The C-130J will go to Rmastein after leaving ILA (probably sunday), after this the aircraft will fly back to Prestwick and St.John.

Regards
Dennis

Wim · Post by **Wim** » 27 May 2008, 13:42

wamovements wrote:
Wim wrote:Does anybody knows the route and date of the Indian Druv's that going from ILA to Biggin hill?
Will ask them tomorrow. (I think you prefer Koksijde )

How could you guess

Ostend is also fine for me

Thanks for asking

jaah · Post by **jaah** » 27 May 2008, 15:53

aviodromefriend wrote:
jaah wrote:Hi

I have two questions I hope you can help we with.

1. Is the doors to the showground not open before 10.00?

2. Will ILA not publicise a program for the flying display?

Thanks in advance.
1. No, they are german, so sticking to the rules, consider it a bonus as it opens up 15 minutes earlier. Tickets can be purchased earlier, but after that you're held in other area's away from the planes

2. Program is decided the evening before each day, Leaflets are handed out at the showground. Further it should be published after 20.00 hour at the ILA website

Thanks for your answers.

I have a few follow up questions.

1. So this means that the showground is only open from 1000-1800 during the public days?

2. So the flying display is not the same on both Saturday and Sunday?

Thanks again wamovements and aviodromefriend.

aviodromefriend · Post by **aviodromefriend** » 27 May 2008, 17:02

jaah wrote:
aviodromefriend wrote:
jaah wrote:Hi

I have two questions I hope you can help we with.

1. Is the doors to the showground not open before 10.00?

2. Will ILA not publicise a program for the flying display?

Thanks in advance.
1. No, they are german, so sticking to the rules, consider it a bonus as it opens up 15 minutes earlier. Tickets can be purchased earlier, but after that you're held in other area's away from the planes

2. Program is decided the evening before each day, Leaflets are handed out at the showground. Further it should be published after 20.00 hour at the ILA website
Thanks for your answers.

I have a few follow up questions.

1. So this means that the showground is only open from 1000-1800 during the public days?

2. So the flying display is not the same on both Saturday and Sunday?

Thanks again wamovements and aviodromefriend.

1. That's right, 1000 till 1800 for Friday, Saturday and Sunday

2. They hope to have it basically the same, but you know, reasons beyond the organisers control, etc, exhibitors that prefer a different slot at the days, normal airline traffic that's going on during the show.

aviodromefriend · Post by **aviodromefriend** » 27 May 2008, 21:10

Just read at flugzeugforum: a Me-109 should have had a mishap today, As far as I saw quickly, one maingear leg has collapsed, Pilot (Walther Eichhorn) should be OK.

Further, the court in Germany ruled today, at a certain point, military aircraft should not fly under 450 metres, as wanted by a local Prof. ILA organisation threatened to send the bone over the man's house at 450 metres, but this didn't work, as after the Me-109, flying was stopped.

jaah · Post by **jaah** » 28 May 2008, 10:04

@ aviodromefriend, thanks for your answers.

aviodromefriend wrote:Just read at flugzeugforum: a Me-109 should have had a mishap today, As far as I saw quickly, one maingear leg has collapsed, Pilot (Walther Eichhorn) should be OK.

Further, the court in Germany ruled today, at a certain point, military aircraft should not fly under 450 metres, as wanted by a local Prof. ILA organisation threatened to send the bone over the man's house at 450 metres, but this didn't work, as after the Me-109, flying was stopped.

This does not sound promising for the flying display

. Will it take effect immediately?

Flanker27 · Post by **Flanker27** » 28 May 2008, 11:17

1. The Me-109 is on the program for today (which was published at 20.00 yesterday, so after the mishap), so I suppose the gear was fixed or the damage was light.

2. The minimum height is only over a region near Potsdam, so not overhead the airfield.

Chrisse · Post by **Chrisse** » 28 May 2008, 11:45

The Me109 that is on the flying programme for today is a 109UL, which means it's a replica, not the one that had the mishap yesterday.

Tim Jones · Post by **Tim Jones** » 28 May 2008, 18:04

Did anybody manage to get the serials of the 4 F-4 that overshot on Tuesday morning. also the Typhoon that did a very short display, it looked like 3005?

Many thanks,

Tim.