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Grimmi wrote:F-18 demo is cancelled due to an sportaccident of the demo-pilot :uhuh: . Now also on linked SAF-webtable.
Where did I hear this before? Wasn´t it the PdS demo in Hungary last year that was cancelled because one of the pilots broke his leg.....? Extremely dangerous country, Switzerland....

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TF-104G wrote:a Tu-95 is now on the list :shock:
Indeed
Tupolev Tu-95 Russian Air Force, Russia De
can be found somewhere waaaaay down below
http://www.ila2008.de/ila2008/airshow20 ... alle_e.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; under the "R" of "Russian Air Force.

"De" stands for "Air display operating from outside ILA-terrain".

I think the C-17, B-1 air display and Polish Mig-29 demo are far more realistic... :roll:
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Stratofreighter wrote:
TF-104G wrote:a Tu-95 is now on the list :shock:
Indeed
Tupolev Tu-95 Russian Air Force, Russia De
can be found somewhere waaaaay down below
http://www.ila2008.de/ila2008/airshow20 ... alle_e.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; under the "R" of "Russian Air Force.

"De" stands for "Air display operating from outside ILA-terrain".

I think the C-17, B-1 air display and Polish Mig-29 demo are far more realistic... :roll:
Yeah, interesting updates, PC-9's confirmed as the croatian display team, bringing a Mi 171 with them to :good:

Tu-95 would be great, but I doubt if it's gonna be there every day...
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I think the display has to do something with "showing the power of the Russian Airforce " which is very popular the last years. Look at the military parade at the red square and the long range bomber patrols over the oceans.
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phantom wrote:I think the display has to do somthing with "showing the power of the Russian Airforce " which is very popular the last years. Look at the military parade at the red square and the long range bomber patrols over the oceans.
and it's great that they do it!
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Post by aviodromefriend »

So you think Mr. Medvedev is going to attack NATO from the east since Mr. Putin couldn't get in from the north?

Then it shouldn't be announced more than a week before at an airshow website :P :P
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I contacted the 'team hotline' of the ILA airshow about the flight programme of the Tu-95. They answered with this:

Dear Mr Hettema,

Thank you for your e-mail and your interest in ILA Berlin Air Show 2008.
You will find the preliminary flight programme as well as a list of the exhibited aircrafts on our home page http://www.ila-berlin.de" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; respectively via the following link: http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2008/faq/index_e.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
The exact flight program will be concluded short before ILA starts. This information will be actualized on our website daily and also, published by loudspeakers and flyers during ILA.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further questions.

Kind regards,

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phantom wrote:I contacted the 'team hotline' of the ILA airshow about the flight programme of the Tu-95. They answered with this:

Dear Mr Hettema,

Thank you for your e-mail and your interest in ILA Berlin Air Show 2008.
You will find the preliminary flight programme as well as a list of the exhibited aircrafts on our home page http://www.ila-berlin.de" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; respectively via the following link: http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2008/faq/index_e.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
The exact flight program will be concluded short before ILA starts. This information will be actualized on our website daily and also, published by loudspeakers and flyers during ILA.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further questions.

Kind regards,

ILA Berlin Air Show 2008

Team Hotline
So this looks like there are two options:
- You didn't exact mention your question was pointing to the Tu-95, which would surprise me, as you tell you did in the top of your story
- ILA just didn't read your e-mail properly, thought "something about the flying display" (or the german equivalent) and returned just a standard answer. :evil: :evil:

But at least they answered you, I asked them something three years ago at the Salon at LBG, they told me to send an email with the question, and up till now I haven't received an answer.
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This is the email i send to them:

Hello ILA management,

At my great surprise i see a Tupolev 95 at the list of visitors for the airshow. My question is: Do we see this aircraft every day or is it just flying 1 day from Russia? And if it is only flying 1 day, at which day ?
It is my wish to see this aircraft flying in western europe. A big thanks to the organisation of the ILA to let this wonderfull airplane coming to the ILA.

I think it could't be clearer.
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phantom wrote:This is the email i send to them:

Hello ILA management,

At my great surprise i see a Tupolev 95 at the list of visitors for the airshow. My question is: Do we see this aircraft every day or is it just flying 1 day from Russia? And if it is only flying 1 day, at which day ?
It is my wish to see this aircraft flying in western europe. A big thanks to the organisation of the ILA to let this wonderfull airplane coming to the ILA.

I think it could't be clearer.
Zie Germans are a bit slow of mind :twisted:

Perhaps the Tu-95 is coming by to show of the B-1 :wink:

Greetingz,

Hurricane.
Groeten,
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Post by aviodromefriend »

In the meantime I sent them a mail in German. Maybe they understand that language better than english. If there is an answer with more information, I'll post it at this topic.

Meanwhile at Moscow some people might be amused, all those western idiots desperately talking about their hardware. :rofl2:
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Post by aviodromefriend »

As promised above, although it isn't as detailed as we would have hoped...

Sehr geehrter Herr de Vries,



vielen Dank für Ihre E-Mail und Ihr Interesse an der Tupolev Tu-95 der russischen Luftwaffe, die auf der ILA Berlin Air Show 2008 zu sehen sein wird. Diese Tupolev „kommt und geht“ nach eigenem Ermessen der Russian Air Force. d. H., dass sie einsatzbedingt nicht im Flugprogramm der Air Show zu sehen sein wird und uns die An- und Abflugzeiten leider nicht bekannt sind.



Das vorläufige Flug-Rahmenprogramm und die Fluggeräteliste finden Sie auf unserer Web Site http://www.ila-berlin.de" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; über den Knopf „Airshow / Flugprogramm“ bzw. „Airshow/Fluggeräte“ oder über den Link http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2008/faq/index_e.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.



Das genaue Flugprogramm, das sich erfahrungsgemäß leider noch kurzfristig ändern kann, wird tagesaktuell im Internet veröffentlicht und während der Veranstaltung gleichfalls tagesaktuell mittels Flyern und Lautsprecherdurchsagen bekannt gegeben.



Wir hoffen, dass wir Ihnen mit dieser Information weiterhelfen konnten und wünschen Ihnen einen spannenden Aufenthalt bei der ILA Berlin Air Show 2008.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen



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Von: Rob de Vries [mailto:rob.devries@hetnet.nl]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Mai 2008 19:05
An: ila-hotline
Betreff: Tu-95



Sehr geehrte(r) Herr! Frau!



Auf ihrem website http://www.ila2008.de/ila2008/airshow20 ... alle_e.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; nennen Sie als ein der Teilnehmer

Tupolev Tu-95

Russian Air Force, Russia

De




Bitte können Sie mir mitteilen an welchem Tagen dieser Flugzeug zu sehen ist am ILA, oder wo das Flugzeug zu sehen ist wenn es nicht am ILA ist?



Ich hoffe ein baldiges Antwort zu bekomen.



Hochachtungsvoll,



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Post by Flanker27 »

Preliminary flightprogram for all days online:

http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2008/airsho ... ex_e.cfm#5

Specific a/c demos are hardly mentioned, just the A380 and Eurofighter.
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ehusmann wrote:Where did I hear this before? Wasn´t it the PdS demo in Hungary last year that was cancelled because one of the pilots broke his leg.....? Extremely dangerous country, Switzerland....

Erwin
I don't think that Switzerland is dangerous ;)

I don't know of the exact circumstances, but normally an accident involves two. Maybe an Snowboarder of your country was sleeping directly after an hill on the slope - Snowboarders always doing such dumb things :twisted: - and Pipo has not seeing it. You know, we have'nt anymore Recce-Mirages for such controls :P :P :P

(I had to answer it, 'cause I'm working in tourism-company) :lol:[/quote]
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