J-653 testbed anno 1991 ?

Polleke_NL · Post by **Polleke_NL** » 09 Mar 2008, 12:32

Does anyone happen to have pics of the J-653 as it flew in 1991 as a testbed?

HenkS · Post by **HenkS** » 09 Mar 2008, 14:49

Volkel, 3 sep 1991:

Groet, Henk.

PiPoServisAir · Post by **PiPoServisAir** » 09 Mar 2008, 15:04

Nice photo,

Damn That's a long time no see for me of a TGKlu plane. I was a lot of time @ EHVK in when i was around 14-18.

Peace

roel lodder · Post by **roel lodder** » 09 Mar 2008, 16:04

Nice pic, Henk!
Where do you live in Hilversum?
I live in Hilversum aswel!
Grtz,
Roel

Polleke_NL · Post by **Polleke_NL** » 09 Mar 2008, 16:40

HenkS wrote:Volkel, 3 sep 1991:

Groet, Henk.

Great pic Henk, thanks...

But it brings another question:
On this side she features a "De Peel" tailband (assume still from 306sqn?), what was she wearing on the other side? Also "De Peel" or "Brabants Bont"??

HenkS · Post by **HenkS** » 09 Mar 2008, 17:15

Too long ago, I cannot remember what was on the left side in 1991. At least there was a lot of "Brabants bont" on this jet in May 1995.

kiwi · Post by **kiwi** » 09 Mar 2008, 17:49

Maybe a stupid question, but: What do they test on testbeds? I recall recently hearing we still have a test F16 but what do they test?

mart · Post by **mart** » 09 Mar 2008, 19:34

kiwi wrote:Maybe a stupid question, but: What do they test on testbeds? I recall recently hearing we still have a test F16 but what do they test?

on 03-03 I saw J-653 doing some SFO aproaches at eindhoven, with RNLAF flight test center titles on the side. ( i don't recall the titels in detail by hart, cause I have the pictures on my other comp, but they were something like this.)

PiPoServisAir · Post by **PiPoServisAir** » 09 Mar 2008, 23:47

I remember that the TG-Klu F-16B had Peel-Band & Brabant Bont. i Dont have the picture anymor, but when i was a 16year old i had a little A4 poster of the TG-Klu and i remeber that it had Both bands on it.

Peace

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 10 Mar 2008, 00:02

Polleke_NL wrote:But it brings another question:
On this side she features a "De Peel" tailband (assume still from 306sqn?), what was she wearing on the other side? Also "De Peel" or "Brabants Bont"?

Yeb,
In those day's it wa commen that the based 306 F-16's where wearing both flags on the tail. This 'cause there war base was De Peel.

Ooh, and it's the flag of Limburg, not the one from De Peel.

PiPoServisAir · Post by **PiPoServisAir** » 10 Mar 2008, 00:15

Paul wrote:
Polleke_NL wrote:But it brings another question:
On this side she features a "De Peel" tailband (assume still from 306sqn?), what was she wearing on the other side? Also "De Peel" or "Brabants Bont"?
Yeb,
In those day's it wa commen that the based 306 F-16's where wearing both flags on the tail. This 'cause there war base was De Peel.

Ooh, and it's the flag of Limburg, not the one from De Peel.

Not only the war base, i remember that they also change the sqn sometime betwin the 2 bases. And the 306 did some training from there, and the smal weapons group was here (patriot, Nike Stinger). When you call to the base, your phone call was transfer to Volkel those days.

Peace

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 10 Mar 2008, 00:39

PiPoServisAir wrote:Not only the war base, i remember that they also change the sqn sometime betwin the 2 bases. And the 306 did some training from there, and the smal weapons group was here (patriot, Nike Stinger). When you call to the base, your phone call was transfer to Volkel those days.

De Peel was WAR base location of 306 till 1994. During Tac Eval and other base exercise like concreet etc., 306 moved to De Peel 'cause 306 was not part of the strike force when 'we' went to war. As De Peel was not fully operational and only a small guard unit was temp. based everything was handeld by Volkel. SAM unit's arrived here in '95, after closing 3GGW Blomberg and 5GGW Stolzenau...

Paul (ex LB'er & GGW'er).

PiPoServisAir · Post by **PiPoServisAir** » 10 Mar 2008, 00:52

Paul wrote:
PiPoServisAir wrote:Not only the war base, i remember that they also change the sqn sometime betwin the 2 bases. And the 306 did some training from there, and the smal weapons group was here (patriot, Nike Stinger). When you call to the base, your phone call was transfer to Volkel those days.
De Peel was WAR base location of 306 till 1994. During Tac Eval and other base exercise like concreet etc., 306 moved to De Peel 'cause 306 was not part of the strike force when 'we' went to war. As De Peel was not fully operational and only a small guard unit was temp. based everything was handeld by Volkel. SAM unit's arrived here in '95, after closing 3GGW Blomberg and 5GGW Stolzenau...

Paul (ex LB'er & GGW'er).

Sorry was not good in years, and i din't know that it was a "war" base. i know it was the sister base of volkel. And i remember a gossip story that, when de Peel was a secure base, a cessna landed there with enige problems. And that the pilot can not find the base on his fly map, lol. Any 1 know if this was trueThat means only 306 was flying with boith bands on it. I remember that the Peel was a Base located in 2 provinces Limburg and Brabant

The province line was runing true the runway.

I was living in Boekel close to de Peel.

Peace

Polleke_NL · Post by **Polleke_NL** » 10 Mar 2008, 09:27

I have indeed seen pics of 306sqn vipers (unfortunatelly not of the J-653) with De Peel Band (yes, I know it's Limburg such a Volkel wear Brabants Bont) on the right side and Brabants Bont on the left, and so assume same was applicable for the J-653.....

Kleintje Pils · Post by **Kleintje Pils** » 10 Mar 2008, 09:45

mart wrote:
kiwi wrote:Maybe a stupid question, but: What do they test on testbeds? I recall recently hearing we still have a test F16 but what do they test?
on 03-03 I saw J-653 doing some SFO aproaches at eindhoven, with RNLAF flight test center titles on the side. ( i don't recall the titels in detail by hart, cause I have the pictures on my other comp, but they were something like this.)

Correct Mart:

But... as far as I know the only test aircraft nowadays is the J-066, Orange Jumper.