Israel Evacuation, diplomatic and support flights

[ehusmann]

How is AF1 considered an 'evacuation flight'?
It seems the last posts have just become a Ben Gurion log, which is interesting for sure, but does not exactly belong in this topic (or section even).

[Starman]

Many years ago Boeing built a special version of the 747 which featured extra seating where the "washrooms" would normally be found as it was considered "bad form" to be seen using the facilities on domestic Japanese routes. More recently, the FCRS at Cherry Point discovered that the lack of facilities on MV-22s resulted in greater than expected erosion of certain parts.
I doubt POTUS would pass water in unspecified places, but I'm quite sure that between Ben Gurion and Andrews, unless he'd been particularly unlucky in his choice of luncheon fare, even he was obliged to evacuate at least once in what I am sure are suitably appointed facilities.

Anyway, unless anyone has serious objections, and as I am not expecting much trade tonight, here is todays LOG (wasn't there something about constipated mathematicians working it out.....)

CFC4172 A310 15002 (didn't pay much attention)
BRS51 E390 FAB2854 in 15.30
FAC922 B737 922 in c15.45

[AK01]

A bit off topic, but here a list of aircraft flying into HEAR/ Al Arish just across the border in Egypt for relief flights for Gaza.

13-okt TuAF862 A400M 17-0080 4B8212
14-okt TuAF865 A400M 17-0080 4B8212
15-okt UAF312 C130H-30 312 896C3D
18-okt VCV171 A340-642 YV-3535 0D8469
19-okt SUM9123 IL76 RA-76363 152A4B
19-okt IGA650 B767-281 SP-MRF 45B205
19-okt TVR4709/10 B747-409 ER-BAS 504E6C
20-okt PVV3603/4 B747-243 ER-BAR 504E60
19-okt UAF312 C130H-30 312 896C3D
20-okt RJAF344 C-130H 345 1E3C8A
21-okt UAF312 C130H-30 312 896C3D
22-okt LHOB271 C-17A MAM 06A27A
22-okt IFC0918 C-17A CB-8011 800E63

[AK01]

Military traffic into Ben Gurion has gone down to a few RAF A400's, and some VIP traffic for talks.
Off topic, at least not Military is that MEA has moved around 10 aircraft out of Lebanon to safer airports.

Additional HEAR/ Al Arish traffic:
22-okt TRK9 A319 TC-IST 4BA674
23-okt TuAF867 A400M 21-0118 4B820D
23-okt UAF312 C130H-30 312 896C3D
23-okt KAF3223 C-17A KAF342 706217
23-okt TuAF868 A400M 17-0080 4B8212
24-okt TuAF869 C-130E 71-01468 4B8228
24-okt KAF3224 KC-130J KAF326 7061F5
24-okt B757-232 5Y-SHJ 04C2BE
25-okt RMAF212 C-130H CN-AOP 02003E
25-okt TuAF870 A400M 13-0009 4B820B
25-okt RMAF211 C-130H CN-AOR 021040
25-okt KAF3225 C-17A KAF343 706216
25-okt TuAF871 A400M 17-0080 4B8212
25-okt RRR6893 C-17A ZZ171 43C171

Something i forgot to mention is a number of IAF flights out of Tel Nov to European airports to collect "goods"
15-okt Liege/ EBLG C130J 669 c/s IAF 650/1 + C130J 661 c/s IAF652/3.
20-10 Cologne/ EDDK C-130J 669 c/s IAF642/3 + C130H 420 c/s IAF 644/5.
24-10 Beograd/ LYBG C130J 669 c/s IAF646/7 + C130H 435 c/s IAF648/9.

[Key]

How is AF1 considered an 'evacuation flight'?
It seems the last posts have just become a Ben Gurion log, which is interesting for sure, but does not exactly belong in this topic (or section even).

Despite some ingenious reasoning above: topic moved, title adapted.

Erik

[Le Addeur noir]

All of the RTAF flights will be on their A340. There is a shortage of qualified A340 air crew in Thailand, and the Royal Thai government are/were attempting to recruit additional crew members on the open market.

[AK01]

Update for flights into HEAR/ Al Arish:
26-okt AMA4981 A300- EX-30003 6010EE OMDW
26-okt KAF3226 KC-130J KAF327 7061F6 OKBK HECA
26-okt RMAF213 C-130H CN-AOG 020031
27-okt FAC1222 B737-732 FAC1222 0ACAA7 LICA LLBG
28-okt KAF3202 KC-130J KAF326 7061F5 OKBK HECA
29-okt KAF3227 C-17A KAF342 706217 OKBK OKBK
30-okt IAM4677 C-130J-30 MM62191 33FFE5 LIBR LIBR
30-okt KAF3229 C-17A KAF342 706217 OKBK OKBK
31-okt IAM4664 C-130J-30 MM62191 33FFE5 LIBR LIBR
31-okt KAF3202 KC-130J KAF326 7061F5 OKBK HECA
31-okt KAF3207 C-17A KAF343 706216 OKBK OKBK
1-nov KAF3203 C-17A KAF343 706216 OKBK OKBK
1-nov SU-BTU/ SU-BRG/SU-BNC
2-nov RJAF345 C-130H 345 1E3C8A OJAM
2-nov RRR4994 A400M ZM412 43C5E6 LCRA
3-nov CTM2028 A400M F-RBAS LFOJ LGIR
3-nov KAF3210 KC-130J KAF327 7061F6 OKBK HECA
3-nov RRR9941 A400M ZM412 43C5E6 LCRA
3-nov RRR9943 A400M ZM401 43C5DB LCRA
3-nov SUM9121 IL76 RA-76429 152A8D HECA HECA
3-nov SUM9123 IL76 RA-76363 152A4B HECA HECA
3-nov SUM9125 IL76 RA-76841 152C29 HECA HECA

[Starman]

Bit of activity this morning including what I believe to be the first flight "OTT" Tel Aviv for a while ..... an RQ-4 (it says here) 11-2046 as "Forte10".
Operating over/near Cyprus yesterday was Dragon78, U-2R (twas a TR-1 when I saw it in '85) 80-1077 and there is a French helicopter carrier on station, noted on the tracking sites have been NH-90s F-MEBD, EBT & ECC (& an E-121 Nr 107 on 8th Nov)

[AK01]

Update HEAR/ Al Arish
4-nov KAF3210 KC-130J KAF327 7061F6 OKKK HECA
5-nov SUM9125/6 IL76 RA-76429 152A8D UUBW HECA
5-nov KAF3213 C-17A KAF342 706217 OKKK OKKK
5-nov SUM9123/4 IL76 RA-76363 152A4B UUBW HECA
5-nov CTM2042 LFOJ HEAZ
6-nov KAF3214 KC-130J KAF327 7061F6 OKKK HECA
6-nov HAF352E C-130H 747 4682EB LGEL
7-nov KAF3215 C-17A KAF343 706216 OKKK OKKK
7-nov TVR4702/3 B747-409 ER-BAS 504E6C OPIS OMFJ
7-nov PVV3603/4 B747-243 ER-BAR 504E60 OMAA
8-nov KAF3216 KC-130J KAF326 7061F5 OKKK HECA
8-nov TUA3285 IL76TD EZ-F428 601848 UTAA
8-nov BSC4022 B747-222B EX-47001 6010E2 HECA OPKC
8-nov TVR3701/2 B737-3B3 ER-BCT 504E6A OMSJ
9-nov Jeds01 IL76TD 360 743599 OJAM
9-nov LHOB270 C-17A MAA 06A248 OTBH
9-nov KAF3217 C-17A KAF343 706216 OKKK OKKK
9-nov IGA672 B767-281 SP-MRE 48B204 OERK
9-nov LHOB271 C-17A MAN 06A27B OTBH
9-nov LHOB272 C-17A MAB 06A249 OTBH
10-nov IGA654 B767-35H SP-MRG 48B206 LIBR
10-nov SUM9145 IL76 RA-76429 152A8D UUBW
11-nov PVV3603/4 B747-243 ER-BAR 504E60 OMAA HECA
11-nov WCM775/6 B737-81Q 9M-WCA 7504E0 OMSJ OMSJ
11-nov IGA676 B767-281 SP-MRE 48B204 OERK
11-nov IGA656 B767-35H SP-MRG 48B206 LIBR
13-nov PLF254 C-130E 1503 48D8E2 EPWA
13-nov PLF253 C-130E 1504 48D8E3 EPWA
13-nov TUN75 C-130J Z21121 02B26A DTTA
14-nov KAF3203 C-17A KAF342 706217 OKKK OKKK
14-nov IGA682/3 B767-281 SP-MRE 48B204 OERK OERK
14-nov LHOB270 C-17A MAA 06A248 OTBH OTBH
14-nov LHOB271 C-17A MAC 06A255 OTBH OTBH
15-nov KAF3230 KC-130J KAF327 7061F6 OKKK HECA
15-nov TVR3701/2 B737-3B3 ER-BCT 504E6A OMAA OMSJ
16-nov Jeds01 IL76TD 360 743599 OJAM
16-nov KAF3205 C-17A KAF342 706217 OKKK OKKK
16-nov SUM9123/4 IL76 RA-76429 152A8D UUBW HECA
16-nov MFX7675/6 B767-3Q8 UK67009 507C8A OOMS HECA
17-nov MFX7677/8 B767-3Q8 UK67009 507C8A OOMS HECA
17-nov IGA686 B767-281 SP-MRF 45B205 LSGG
18-nov PVV3301/2 B747-243 ER-BAR 504E60 OMAA
18-nov AMA4981/2 A300B4-203 EX-30003 6010EE OERK OERK
19-nov AMA4981/2 A300B4-203 EX-30003 6010EE OERK OERK
19-nov KAF3207 C-17A KAF342 706217 OKKK OKKK
19-nov LHOB270 C-17A MAP 06A27D OTBH
19-nov KAF3215 C-17A KAF343 706216 OKKK OKKK
19-nov KAF3204 KC-130J KAF327 7061F6 OKKK HECA